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« on: July 24, 2013, 09:24:16 AM »
« edited: July 24, 2013, 09:34:12 AM by PASOK Leader Hashemite »

Acknowledged.

My point of view is naturally the same as Xahar, and I additionally fully agree with Senator TNF's interventions. I hope that the Senate intends to use this little thing to think about game reform in a serious and non-partial manner, but given the Senate's makeup and the nature of the current administration, I fear that there is very little hope of that.
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2013, 09:40:18 AM »

This is just a general question to the members of the National Movement, but would you describe what has gone on in the wake of your actions in the Pacific as a political witchhunt, a sort of nonsensical, faux outrage on the part of those in government, who had up until the Operation, completely ignored the decaying situation in the Pacific?

Absolutely. As we have said countless times, the near entirety of the major parties, representing the pro-status quo reactionary ruling elite, opposes reforms and willfully ignores the actual problems in the game. They feed us with small tidbits and nuggets every now and then to insist that the game is strong, that everything is fine and that no reform is needed. Look at the current administration; certainly any commitment to real reform that they might have had has gone flying out the window, and it will go down to be one of the most reactionary administrations in living memory at this point. Those who try to bring about real reform are the victims of a multiparty witch hunt and face harsh retribution. For example, instead of any serious discussion about Rimjob and why it was necessary, the focus has been on branding us "terrorists", figuring out how to drag us to court to sentence us in various ways and stale discussions which totally ignore the fundamental issues.
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2013, 12:44:55 PM »

If you want to get people to listen then quit beating up on strawmen and engage. Roll Eyes

The reason you feel like no one is listening to you, is because a majority either firmly or at least to some extent thing you are detached from the real course of things. The constant use of strawmen (most of which are mischaracterizations and falsehoods), the attacking of opponents, and demeaning of proposals that fall short of your perfect outcome, are the exact reasons why nothing is getting done, especailly in the realm of what you want. As people mostly on the left, it is hard to believe you don't see the downsides of a Reaganist "Us vs Them" mentality. For comparison you have copied the exact political strategy used by enviromental movement on global warming, with the same predictable results.

Yet another reason why your motives are suspect and many think you want destruction instead of reform.   

I didn't seek to bring you up here to put you on trial. I did it to investigate some areas of concern and to have a nice civil discussion about reform. The very first question asked by a member of this committee concerned a potential area of concern about the number of offices in the game and bares directly on any proposal to consolidate or eliminate the regions, which has been conveniently ignored to facilitate more strawmen.

Not all those who oppose us are 'reactionaries' and I have no interest in 'us vs. them' horsesh**t; plenty of people at least sympathize with our aims. Furthermore, I fully understand, recognize and respect why certain individuals may disagree (quite strongly) with us. However, you cannot expect us to respect those who incessantly brand us as 'trolls' or 'terrorists' and dismiss our legitimate political opinions as 'trolling'. To repeat what Xahar said, I will respect the VPAG when he acts in a manner becoming of the offices he holds and represents. We hold perfectly legitimate political opinions, even if one may disagree with the means we use to achieve them. The President himself, as has been noted previously, has, on paper at least, agreed with some of our views. However, certain people have shown no interest in engaging with us, preferring to throw us in fantasyjail, resort to name calling (trolls, terrorists etc) and - at worst - seek to silence us. Until such people treat our views with respect, I will keep callings thing as they are.

The proposals to eliminate/consolidate certain regions have been constant for years at this point, and they come up every now and again and invariably tend to go away as soon as they've come. I am not hostile to this solution, unless consolidation is compensated by just adding more elected offices to the mess. However, I feel as if there is very little chance of such a solution coming to pass.

A group of terrorists, who were really educated, who wanted to change the world because they thought this world wasn’t  perfect.

We're not terrorists, and I take offense at being called a "terrorist" (even moreso than being called a 'troll').
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2013, 08:13:44 PM »

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No one here is asking you to do anything with regards your oponents. My point was to get you to understand the perspective of the critiques you are receiving and how your actions have actually hampered not helped the situation. It was the same approach I took with Dereich a few days ago.

I understand the criticism received from certain reasonable people, because I don't have reading comprehension issues. That being said, a lot of the criticism, especially as of late, has come in the form of meaningless babble or personal attacks. Additionally, the idea that our actions have hampered the situation is entirely subjective and one which I reject. The meaningless bureaucratic horsesh**t, the ostensible 'reformists' teeny teeny symbolic reforms and the horrible 'messianic' judicial activism from the AG is what has 'hampered' whatever the situation is.
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