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Beet
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« on: February 12, 2008, 09:43:53 PM »

Wow. Obama won Catholics! He did better among non-college graduates than graduates! He basically tied among whites, crushed with blacks, and...

He won Hispanics.

Clinton is bleeeeeding.

That time of the month again? That's going to make tonight even more painful for her.

Now if I made a racist joke at Obama's expense...

It would be acceptable in a forum full of StatesRights'ers and other conservative Republicans, as opposed to acceptable in a forum full of white male progressive Democrats and independents.
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2008, 09:45:12 PM »


No surprise after the Virginia results came in.
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2008, 09:47:04 PM »

Wow. Obama won Catholics! He did better among non-college graduates than graduates! He basically tied among whites, crushed with blacks, and...

He won Hispanics.

Clinton is bleeeeeding.

That time of the month again? That's going to make tonight even more painful for her.

Now if I made a racist joke at Obama's expense...

It would be acceptable in a forum full of StatesRights'ers and other conservative Republicans, as opposed to acceptable in a forum full of white male progressive Democrats and independents.

I wasnt making that joke because shes a woman and she has lady problems...I meant shes bleeding from massive wounds she sustained for getting her butt kicked in an 8 state losing streak.

That wasn't even a joke. It was more like an allusion. But even if it was a joke, all jokes have a serious element, and it was a sexist one.

update: sorry yes, was talking about Dibble's comment...
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2008, 09:53:36 PM »

Well I think there are huge issues going on that this election season has revealed about our culture, and I apologize if narrowing it down to one incident is trivializing it. I will write my thoughts on the former at a later date.
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2008, 10:00:14 PM »

The hypocritical silence is mildly amusing.

What did you mean by this?
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2008, 10:01:03 PM »

Oh my God, why are people in an uproar over Dibble's joke? It wasn't that bad, it was amusing and I make jokes like that all the time. I make black jokes too. This country as a whole needs to stop getting offended so easily. By getting offended, you are allowing yourselves to be subservient.

It's not about being offended. It's about what's cool... as long as sexism remains cool, it will be perpetuated.
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2008, 10:04:52 PM »


I checked who was viewing this thread just before I posted that remark. Haha. Wonderful.

okey-dokey. Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2008, 10:25:44 PM »

Ok, what about delegates tonight?

Obama's own projections had him winning more   delegates tonight by the following:

Va  -  43 -40
Md  - 37 -33
DC  -  9  - 6

He exceeded that.  Yes?



Well Obama will win between 52 and 55 delgates fom VA, Clinton between 28 and 31. So he's exceeded his expectations by about 10-15 delegates. Indeed, he could well win VA by 27 delegates, one less than the margin in New Jersey and Massachusetts combined - who says just the big states count

Precisely... there's a residual GE mindset of people looking at primaries when these things are decided by popular vote. Obama leads the popular vote (excl. Florida & Michigan) and that's why he heads delegates excluding them. He got more delegates by winning Idaho than he lost by losing New Jersey, even though his win in Idaho was only by around 15,000 votes, while he lost New Jersey by about 100,000 votes. That's the primary-caucus difference.
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