Donna Brazile: How the Clinton campaign ran the DNC

[Beet]

The response by most Democrats in this thread is sad.

The main gist I get from the comments is basically
"That uppity b***h just wants to sell books"

It’s true.

Bottom line, the result of the primary reflected the will of the people, unlike the general election. And nothing the DNC did affected the result more than them nuking the entire state’s of Florida and Michigan in ‘08 for O.

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But of course no one can be racist against whites because reasons.

There is definitely a bigotry among many SJWs against straight cis white males. You don't make up for past discrimination by turning the tables.

This is the sort of hyperbole that the alt-right uses. No progressives posts things like this.

Get off your high horse.  The "ONLY WHITE PEOPLE CAN BE RACIST" meme wasn't even popular in left-wing circles until fairly recently, when collective guilt became trendy with self-hating upper-class white liberals.

Anyone who actually believes this should actually try to make some non-white friends, or visit South Korea or Japan, probably the most racist developed countries in the world by some distance.

Asians benefit from white privilege.

If they did, they wouldn't be about to be getting nuked.

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You are worse than Hitler. Why you're not banned yet I don't know.

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You are worse than Hitler. Why you're not banned yet I don't know.

I ask the same about you.    I'd take 10,000 Santanders over even point one of you.

Alright, I don't deserve to live because of my race. You and Santander can have my address and come and shoot me in the head. Happy then?

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You are worse than Hitler. Why you're not banned yet I don't know.

I ask the same about you.    I'd take 10,000 Santanders over even point one of you.

Alright, I don't deserve to live because of my race. You and Santander can have my address and come and shoot me in the head. Happy then?

lol... both Santander and my long term boyfriend are Asian (the latter Chinese).. but okie dokie dude.

So I do deserve to live? What about Japan and South Koreans? Do you agree they deserve to be nuked?

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You are worse than Hitler. Why you're not banned yet I don't know.

A nuclear bomb going off in Seoul and Tokyo could kill more people in one day than Hitler ever did in 100.

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^^^ Mr. Morden is 100% correct. The DNC cant make every Democratic woman Senator, including Elizabeth Warren, sign a letter in mid 2013 urging Hillary to run, an implicit endorsement. And why did the donors, elites, operatives, independently decide to back Hillary, or (in th case of Biden and other potential alternatives) get scared off? Well, they could see steady polling numbers in 2013 and 2014 that showed 60% to 70% of party voters supported Clinton as the nominee. Polling that ended up correctly predicting who Democrats wound up voting for, by the way.

 And why did 60% to 70% of Democrats want Hillary as the nominee? Well, because they could remember 2008, when Clinton got 18 million votes to Obama’s 17.5 million. They remembered how she graciously conceded to HIM despite being faced with a landslide of sexism. They remembered her full throated endorsement of HIM at the 2008 Democratic convention. They remembered her enthusiastic campaigning for HIM during the fall 2008 campaign. They remembered her accepting to seeve under HIM after the 2008 election. They remembered how she served under him with minimal drama and cultivated a good relationship with him, even though he appointed special envoys so she didn’t get a chance to have much responsibility or burnish her resume with big name deals. They felt that, no matter what you think of Hillary Clinton, love her or hate her, she had EARNED a nomination and was owed one by the party. This was from the primary electorate itself.

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Oh lookup Donna bsed the contents of the "deal" as it turns out it was an agreement about the GE only https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/amp/memo-reveals-details-hillary-clinton-dnc-deal-n817411

But of course no one can be racist against whites because reasons.

There is definitely a bigotry among many SJWs against straight cis white males. You don't make up for past discrimination by turning the tables.

This is the sort of hyperbole that the alt-right uses. No progressives posts things like this.

Get off your high horse.  The "ONLY WHITE PEOPLE CAN BE RACIST" meme wasn't even popular in left-wing circles until fairly recently, when collective guilt became trendy with self-hating upper-class white liberals.

Anyone who actually believes this should actually try to make some non-white friends, or visit South Korea or Japan, probably the most racist developed countries in the world by some distance.

Asians benefit from white privilege.

If they did, they wouldn't be about to be getting nuked.

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Beet is just a drama-queen.  I'm sure he reported this post.  And I'm sure texasgurl will rape my post to scrub you off the record.

I am rightly upset at the real possibility of nuclear war, as any sane and reasonable person ought to be.

I am reminded of a story I once heard about an employee at a software company who felt mistreated by one of his coworkers. The coworker was being a jerk, to be sure, so this employee spent months documenting all of his coworker's supposed transgressions, and then one day sent it to the boss and got the coworker fired on the same day. I told him that while the coworker's behavior was wrong, he had been unfair and should have confronted the coworker first with what he felt he was doing that was wrong and asked him to make a change. Given a warning, in effect.

You have made it clear that you don't like me, even though through my 21,000 posts you have never, or almost never, challenged anything I said. The only time you did, recently, you misinterpreted what I said, taking a figure of speech I used to mean an attitude of condescension. I've seen this sort of thing on the forum before, where people bash other posters behind their backs. Maybe I deserve it. I admit that I'm not a perfect person, and I'm not even necessarily a particularly good person. I'm just a human who posts here on Atlas, just like everyone else. But I do think I can say I haven't engaged in much of this culture of denigrating other posters personally. To do this kind of thing without being willing to say it to a person's face the precise behavior that one objects to is the worst of gossip culture. But there is nothing one can do about that which one does not know about. It's a limitation of being human.

I do not think anyone deserves to be nuked. To make such a claim about some 170 million people, sight unseen, is heinous. For a person who takes an interest in the region where those 170 million people live because he has lived there, slept there, ate the food there, and spent days seeing people of that region and interacting with them, as Santander has, is downright disturbing. The more one comes into contact with other human beings, the more of their humanity we ought to see, not less. For the opposite to occur is a perverted dynamic. For me to be worth only 1/100,000th of such a person, suggests I think that 17 trillion people deserve to be nuked. If 17 trillion people even exist in the universe, I can assure you, I don't think they deserve to be nuked. I don't think anyone deserves to die. Someone said that he was just trying to "get under my skin" with the comment. It is not his comment that has gotten under my skin by itself, it is the man in the White House contributing to the real possibility of nuclear war that has gotten under my skin. As it should any reasonable person's.

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The simple fact was, we had established post Watergate an objective standard for truth, they both sides respected.

That is until the Clinton's came to power. They used spin and political capital to muscle their way through touchy legal situations on multiple occasions.  

The reason why people dwell on the Clinton's is because the Clinton's have in many ways defined this political era so much and basically Donald Trump takes everything about them and pushes them to new extreme.

1. Political Con Artists
2. Shady business dealings
3. President as a Celebrity figure
4. Breaking Previous Standards of Presidential Behavior.
5. Reducing objective facts to partisan opinions

Trump would never have been nominated without President George W. Bush and he never would have been elected without President Bill Clinton.

But of course one is want to say "that is in no way on the level of what Trump is doing". Yes, that is the point. Call it the slippery slope. Call it the evolution, or whatever you want. The process continues forward, testing out the next extreme.

Eh, no I'm pretty sure Donald Trump is going to be it, as far as the Democrats are concerned... they are not going to nominate someone more extreme than Trump. Or even another Clinton for that matter. Most Democrats are sick of both.

[Beet]

The simple fact was, we had established post Watergate an objective standard for truth, they both sides respected.

That is until the Clinton's came to power. They used spin and political capital to muscle their way through touchy legal situations on multiple occasions.  

The reason why people dwell on the Clinton's is because the Clinton's have in many ways defined this political era so much and basically Donald Trump takes everything about them and pushes them to new extreme.

1. Political Con Artists
2. Shady business dealings
3. President as a Celebrity figure
4. Breaking Previous Standards of Presidential Behavior.
5. Reducing objective facts to partisan opinions

Trump would never have been nominated without President George W. Bush and he never would have been elected without President Bill Clinton.

But of course one is want to say "that is in no way on the level of what Trump is doing". Yes, that is the point. Call it the slippery slope. Call it the evolution, or whatever you want. The process continues forward, testing out the next extreme.

Eh, no I'm pretty sure Donald Trump is going to be it, as far as the Democrats are concerned... they are not going to nominate someone more extreme than Trump. Or even another Clinton for that matter. Most Democrats are sick of both.

I think the only step down from Trump, and if it happens it seems it would be a Republican, is a Presidential candidate gets elected on the promise of setting up an authoritarian dictatorship and suspending the Constitution.

I don't even want to think about it. All the opposition can do is offer a better alternative; if it is rejected, so be it.