Trumpcare Megathread: It's dead (for now)

[Beet]

If this is passed through reconciliation, it means that technically, the ACA still stands on the books, right? I don't see how they can repeal something with 50 votes that took 60 votes to pass, unless there is a change of procedure.

[Beet]

Trump complaining about the 60 vote threshold on Twitter; wants it to be a 51 vote instead:

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/869553853750013953

So a minority president who was elected with 46% of the vote wants to get rid of a check and balance that protects the majority who didn't vote for him so he can ram through his program with impunity. Disgusting.

[Beet]

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LOL. How many times did Congress vote to "repeal" Obamacare when Obama was in office? Like 50 times?

[Beet]

Welp we knew Trump would get lash out at something so he is now ranting on Twitter on getting rid of 60 votes and just going to 51

Has the man who got about the same vote share as John McCain ever considered the possibility of bipartisanship?

[Beet]

gop should really expel mccain. anyway after next year senate elections republicans will have at least 57 seats, so trumpcare will easily pass.

Cool story, bro.

While it's still likely the GOP gains seats in 2018 because the Dems performed way above expectations in 2012, there's no way they gain five seats with Trump as President. Heck, it's remotely possible that Dems retake the Senate in 2018 (Nevada, Arizona, and Arizona special) but even that would require Trump deliberately sabotaging the ACA by screwing the marketplace insurers out of funds should get under current law.

52-
53- MT
54- ND
55- MO
56- IN
57- OH
58- WV
59- MI

It's very possible. None of those seats are safe D. And this is assuming Menendez doesn't go down in a corruption scandal.

[Beet]

Oh, I know it's unlikely, but it's quite realistic. I'm not convinced Tammy Baldwin or Bill Nelson are safe, either. The Democrats are just so out of touch.

[Beet]

I just went from West to East, except for Michigan.

[Beet]

Tomorrow is the big decision day and I'm fairly certain he will cut the CSR's.

Then you should buy some 'Yes' shares on PredictIt which are only trading at 15%.

[Beet]

Vox has an interesting article on shifting American attitudes on the government and health care.  Using data from Gallup and Pew polls, they found a huge swing in just the last four years.  On the question of  whether it's the federal government's responsibility to ensure that all Americans have health coverage, the results were:

2013: 42/56 (-14)
2014: 47/50 (-3)
2015: 51/47 (+4)
2016: 51/46 (+5)
2017: 60/39 (+21)

That's a net change of +16 in the last year, and an astonishing +35 over four years.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/16/16158918/voxcare-poll-government-run-health-care

Because the media literally straight up lies and people are getting desensitized to it...

Well, it also helps that Donald Trump essentially made the promise that everyone should have health care, something no other Republican would have done.

It seems like this is just a return to where the polls were in the 2000s- under the Bush presidency. It seems that voters just instinctively react to whichever party's fortunes are doing well. We used to have a poster here named Sam Spade who said that health care reform was something the Democrats should campaign on every time, but never actually enact. I think this is what he meant.