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« on: November 04, 2011, 06:00:45 PM »

I am conflicted. On the one hand, my hatred of Berlusconi and care for the long-term future of the Italian nation wishes Berlusconi to survive until 2013. On the other hand, my fear of short-term market meltdown and instinctive wish to see Italy under a technocrat who could please the ECB wishes to see an early election. Hmmmm.
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2011, 02:44:01 PM »

The left WILL be united,the only party that might (and hopefully will) NOT be part of the coalition is the FdS (the same communists which created all sorts of trouble in the Prodi governments).

You don't want to govern Italy right now. It's best for the right to win another election, it will be worth it, they will be discredited for the next generation or more. If the left wins, the left in Italy is finished for the rest of our lifetimes.
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2011, 03:32:01 PM »

The left WILL be united,the only party that might (and hopefully will) NOT be part of the coalition is the FdS (the same communists which created all sorts of trouble in the Prodi governments).

You don't want to govern Italy right now. It's best for the right to win another election, it will be worth it, they will be discredited for the next generation or more. If the left wins, the left in Italy is finished for the rest of our lifetimes.

You might be right. If the left wins in Italy, it might be at risk to fail in the same way as in Greece, Portugal and Spain, and I sure don't wish that.

However, there is something more important than the left's interest : Italy's interest. Italy has one problem today, that is Berlusconi.

No, no. What most people don't understand is: Berlusconi's not the only problem. Far from it.

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I agree with you that the economy is solid, the debt isn't enormous. Both those things don't matter now. A speculative attack has already started on Italy, and when you face a speculative attack, it doesn't matter how strong you are, you will fall. The financial analysts, economists and everybody else aren't telling the full picture. Italy's fate will be determined in Brussels and Berlin, the only question being decided by this election is who will take the blame will the disaster almost inevitably strikes.
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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2011, 08:12:04 PM »

So... are there any parties in Italy, anywhere, who seriously support restoring the lira? What's the closest to a serious, establishment person whose name is known who has advocated such a move?
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