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Beet
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« on: January 09, 2011, 05:06:39 PM »

Shortly after Jared Lee Loughner had been identified as the alleged shooter of Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, online sleuths turned up pages of rambling text and videos he had created. A wave of amateur diagnoses soon followed, most of which concluded that Loughner was not so much a political extremist as a man suffering from "paranoid schizophrenia."

For many, the investigation will stop there. No need to explore personal motives, out-of-control grievances or distorted political anger. The mere mention of mental illness is explanation enough. This presumed link between psychiatric disorders and violence has become so entrenched in the public consciousness that the entire weight of the medical evidence is unable to shift it. Severe mental illness, on its own, is not an explanation for violence, but don't expect to hear that from the media in the coming weeks.

Seena Fazel is an Oxford University psychiatrist who has led the most extensive scientific studies to date of the links between violence and two of the most serious psychiatric diagnoses—schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, either of which can lead to delusions, hallucinations, or some other loss of contact with reality. Rather than looking at individual cases, or even single studies, Fazel's team analyzed all the scientific findings they could find. As a result, they can say with confidence that psychiatric diagnoses tell us next to nothing about someone's propensity or motive for violence.

A 2009 analysis of nearly 20,000 individuals concluded that increased risk of violence was associated with drug and alcohol problems, regardless of whether the person had schizophrenia. Two similar analyses on bipolar patients showed, along similar lines, that the risk of violent crime is fractionally increased by the illness, while it goes up substantially among those who are dependent on intoxicating substances. In other words, it's likely that some of the people in your local bar are at greater risk of committing murder than your average person with mental illness.

http://www.slate.com/id/2280619/
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2011, 05:51:38 PM »

I don't think sane people are likely to go off and randomly massacer a bunch of strangers if they get drunk. They might beat the wife to death or something though.

Actually, plenty of sober, sane people go off and randomly massacre a bunch of strangers. Maybe you don't get that so much in Sweden.
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2011, 01:45:12 AM »

Well this is going to be a legal issue; I'd imagine the defense will rely on mental illness.
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2011, 02:23:11 AM »

But yeah, the vast majority of mentally ill people don't go on shooting sprees, so mental illness is certainly not an excuse for committing crimes. As an explanation, it is only a very small part of the overall story. Those who are ill still have an obligation to control their illness and prevent it from hurting others, and we certainly should strongly punish those who are unwilling or unable to.

You're a monster. A clueless monster.

I don't think that's fair; he phrased something poorly. I mean, if someone has a condition in theory where they can't help attempting violence on others from time to time, they are not going to be granted their freedom. And even if this isn't meant as a punishment, it would have almost the same effect.
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2011, 08:08:11 PM »

I don't think sane people are likely to go off and randomly massacer a bunch of strangers if they get drunk. They might beat the wife to death or something though.

Actually, plenty of sober, sane people go off and randomly massacre a bunch of strangers. Maybe you don't get that so much in Sweden.

Really? Cite?

http://www.epicdisasters.com/index.php/site/comments/the_worst_school_massacres_shootings_and_killings/
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