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Tetro Kornbluth
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« on: February 19, 2012, 08:35:16 AM »

Krazen's obsession notwithstanding, you guys really think teachers should get a 30% raise? Maybe they can at least tie it to performance?

What is "performance"?

Again, can someone please answer this question...
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2012, 04:46:08 PM »
« Edited: February 19, 2012, 04:57:06 PM by Mist »

Krazen's obsession notwithstanding, you guys really think teachers should get a 30% raise? Maybe they can at least tie it to performance?

What is "performance"?

Again, can someone please answer this question...

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How do you do that?

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How do you 'divide' students into types? I wish for specifics here. Not overly large liberal-capitalist-moralistic statements about 'performance' (or at least, not just those)

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What type of testing? How regular? What are these students being tested on?

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So basically what you want is for teachers to be paid depending on how you well their students do at tests. In other words, you will reward people financially by gaming the test system. Yeah, can't see any problems here....

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And yet you seem to think the best way to do this is to launch a campaign against teachers' organizations (otherwise known as "unions"), demonizing "bad teachers" and often teachers in general and portraying them as parasites on the state (well, perhaps not you, but this is where the GOP rhetoric is heading). Yep, can't see any problem here....

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You want to replace learning with testing (which proves ability... to do tests) and in the process destroy teachers' independence all in the name of their benefit and prestige. Got you.
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Tetro Kornbluth
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2012, 02:31:09 PM »
« Edited: September 10, 2012, 02:56:39 PM by Iatrogenesis »

The Neoliberal technocrat notion of "Education reform" which seems to be popular on a bipartisan basis in the US right now is simply one of the worst ideas ever. And so while I'm not really following this strike, I hope Rahm loses.
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Tetro Kornbluth
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2012, 02:57:42 PM »

The Neoliberal technocrat notion of "Education reform" which seems to be popular on a bipartisan basis in the US right now is simply one of the worst ideas ever. And so I'm not really following this strike, I hope Rahm loses.

The rhetoric of reform applied to an agenda of destruction is at the heart of the neo-liberal project, of course.

Of course. But American "Education reform" is particularly fashionable right now despite its obvious odiousness so I felt a comment was necessary. Don't wish to sit on the fence and all that...
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2012, 04:13:38 PM »

This is a ready-made solution looking for its problem. No matter what the problems with the American education system actually were, this would be the recommended 'cure' of the Emmanuel Rahm's of this world. But I do repeat myself.
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