Why is Trump still competitive against Biden after everything that's happened?

[wbrocks67]

Impeachments and January 6 doesn't affect people's lives. A poor economy does. Trump is the perfect candidate to make the election about the economy. Trump is also the candidate that will neutralize the salience of abortion the most.

No.

A lot of delusion in this thread. The bottom line is that in our polarized environment, the GOP nominee is going to get at least 42-44% of the vote. There is a swing vote obviously, but just look at the GOP primary. These voters are *emboldened* after every new Trump indictment. A solid chunk of the country will vote for Trump/whoever the GOP nominee is no matter what.

[wbrocks67]

I am not sure if the polling is off or if the voters of this country are just that stupid, but I cannot fathom that we'll elect Trump again given all that has happened since the 2020 election. We'd be the laughing stock of the world.

Yeah, it's hard to square it with the results of the 2022 election. Election denialism and Trumpism was generally soundly defeated, so it wouldn't exactly make sense for the electorate to be like "just kidding!" in 2024.

[wbrocks67]

It’s a mirage. This is not a competitive race. It only appears that way to generate ratings. The real race is between 6-8% nationally for Dems.

The polls show Biden and Trump within 1 in the popular vote.

Nearly all of the polls that have it that close have it like 43-41 or something. Generally, polls that have pushed people or took out a 3rd party option have shown Biden closer to 50, and Trump generally at a 45% ceiling.

[wbrocks67]

The indictments are making him stronger and hardly anyone on Atlas is equipped to understand why.

Pretty sure we all understand why it's making him stronger among GOP Primary voters.

[wbrocks67]

The indictments are making him stronger and hardly anyone on Atlas is equipped to understand why.

Oh I know why the indictments are making Trump stronger.

I distaste fanatics on both sides, and I can sence the indictments are pushed by fanatics in the Democrat party that make me puke, as much as fanatics in the Republican party.

Democrats say nothing positive these days, just a rehash of the "lock her up" language that I disliked in 2016 and now.

So Trump becomes stronger as a result, because Democrats have debased themselves to a lower level.

Or actually maybe - just maybe - Donald Trump has committed a slew of crimes, and is actually being held accountable! Which is exactly what should be happening in a typical, normal, functioning country!

[wbrocks67]

I can't imagine how you can be undecided and go vote for Trump in the end.

People who simply prefer the economy in 2019 to the one in 2023.

Once again, literally no reason to compare the two given that one was pre-pandemic and one was post-pandemic.

[wbrocks67]

The indictments are making him stronger and hardly anyone on Atlas is equipped to understand why.

Oh I know why the indictments are making Trump stronger.

I distaste fanatics on both sides, and I can sence the indictments are pushed by fanatics in the Democrat party that make me puke, as much as fanatics in the Republican party.

Democrats say nothing positive these days, just a rehash of the "lock her up" language that I disliked in 2016 and now.

So Trump becomes stronger as a result, because Democrats have debased themselves to a lower level.

Or actually maybe - just maybe - Donald Trump has committed a slew of crimes, and is actually being held accountable! Which is exactly what should be happening in a typical, normal, functioning country!

Do you believe that Trump is guilty because you are a Democrat, or are you a Democrat because you think he's guilty ?

So you see it's impossible for a President to receive a free and fair trial because everyone has a personal opinion of them, you can't find an unbiased Judge or Jury for them.

That's the function of voters to decide in an election.

Jailing your political opponent because you are afraid he's going to win, is not the behaviour of a typical, normal, functioning country.

This is all frankly delusional, I'm sorry. Donald Trump committed numerous crimes. That's not a partisan thing to say, it's a fact. It literally has nothing to do with my ideology. The fact that you believe that people should not be held accountable for their actions is downright scary.

[wbrocks67]

I honestly don't know.  I figured he wouldn't even be leading his own party for the nomination considering what has gone on. I guess we need another year to see how the polls will really be.

No offense, but why would anyone think GOP primary voters would suddenly now have some type of moral compass about this? Especially after the loons that were nominated in 2022.