SCOTUS overturns Roe megathread (pg 53 - confirmed)

[wbrocks67]

This has to be the worst week for supreme court rulings in recent memory.

it's nothing more than an arm of the republican party at this point. and that far-right part of it at that

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The progressive and moderate wings of the Democratic Party on Atlas are at full-on civil war and I am sitting here laughing my ass off over it.

"Progressives" have been more upset at Democrats about this and the GOP who literal just did this today. It's absolutely astounding to me. Priorities are just so ridiculous.

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Sure but that is why a federalist system works the best as you let the people in each state decide their abortion laws cause it is very hard to reconcile a position of thinking a fetus is a life and then supporting the pro choice position.

So the best compromise imo is letting the people in each state decide democratically what abortion laws they want .

"Yes I think that abortion is infanticide, but also it should be a states' rights issue."

Why would a genuinely pro-life person accept anything less than a national abortion ban?

States rights is the compromise between people who think that and the people who think it should be completely legal

states right WOULD be a compromise if you weren't dealing with a bunch of red state governors who were outright banning it.

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They're not stopping.

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1542463030600032257

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They're not stopping.

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1542463030600032257

Literally unconstitutional

They. Don't. Care.

This is the point - states can try and start doing this now if they really want (esp the ones with more extreme R-led legislatures), and the SCOTUS would only rule on this if it actually made its way there, which would take a decent amount of time.

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The bottom line here isn't even the amount of weeks anymore. The problem for the GOP is that they need to stop trying enforce *any* ban. The point is that they need to *STOP* trying to come between a woman and her doctor. That is the central force here. At this point, the # of weeks is trivial. It's the point that the GOP has no right to try and enforce *any* of this because it's none of their damn business.

[wbrocks67]

Abortion by itself will guarantee Democrats control of Congress? Given the bad economic news we got today, I wouldn't be so confident about that. But putting that aside, this is not the right course of action for Republicans to be pursuing. The past three months have revealed to me that Americans are more pro-choice on abortion then I had previously imagined, and that even a 15-week ban is unpopular in many quarters. Moreover, Dobbs was about handing abortion back to the states, not investing the power to proscribe it or to permit it in the hands of the federal government.

Today's economic news isn't "bad" per se. If you never heard about todays report, most people would actively say the economy was getting better. Slowly... possibly very slowly... but I doubt many objectively would say it was getting worse than it has been. A new report saying inflation was roughly unchanged from July to August doesn't change how people feel - and people have clearly been feeling a bit better about it. Which to me just shows how overdramatic the punditry and reaction to the report really is.

[wbrocks67]

Abortion by itself will guarantee Democrats control of Congress? Given the bad economic news we got today, I wouldn't be so confident about that. But putting that aside, this is not the right course of action for Republicans to be pursuing. The past three months have revealed to me that Americans are more pro-choice on abortion then I had previously imagined, and that even a 15-week ban is unpopular in many quarters. Moreover, Dobbs was about handing abortion back to the states, not investing the power to proscribe it or to permit it in the hands of the federal government.

I don’t think the economic news is going to help Republicans that much. Inflation is slowly cooling off and the markets overreacted. And this is just seen by the public as a continuation of the same problem rather than a turn for the worse.

This. Inflation essentially stalled overall from July to August. It was down YoY for a 2nd month. Generally things have at least evened out where prices are not "exploding" anymore despite what some outlets want to try and portray. Not just that, but given futures are already in the positive for tomorrows stock market, it does appear as an overreaction.

Inflation stalling basically overall is a lot different than it continuing to go wayup.

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https://twitter.com/beardedcrank/status/1570183495695368192

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I believe a judge in AZ is deciding today whether to uphold the 1901 abortion ban in the state.