Which was the bigger HC during WW2: Japan or Italy?

[KaiserDave]

I think the gap is probably closer than people think if you view crimes against humanity on a per capita basis. What Italy did in Ethiopia and Libya was absolutely comparable to the practices of the Japanese in China and the Philippines, but I would agree that the Japanese were worse. If it is not a per capita discussion, then Japan obviously is immeasurably worse.

[KaiserDave]

Japan, but that doesn’t justify dropping the bombs.

Maybe not, but lots and lots of things justified dropping the bombs.

No they're never justified.

It arguably causes the US to be on the same tier as Japan when it comes to war crimes committed during WW2.

Heavens no.

[KaiserDave]

Japan, but that doesn’t justify dropping the bombs.

Maybe not, but lots and lots of things justified dropping the bombs.

No they're never justified.

It arguably causes the US to be on the same tier as Japan when it comes to war crimes committed during WW2.

Heavens no.

Imagine the response if any other nation had used nukes.

Everyone would have said - no matter who - they would not have been justified.

Not what I’m arguing. You said the bombs make as America as criminal as Japan, I said that isn’t true.

[KaiserDave]

Imagine the response if any other nation had used nukes.

Everyone would have said - no matter who - they would not have been justified.

That's not the issue. Are you aware of some of the things the Japanese military did during the 1930s and 40s?

Are you aware of some of the things the Germans did during the 1940s.

We didn't throw nukes to them.

Sorry it's never justified. Period.

This is only a matter of circumstance and timing, if Germany was still holding their positions on the Rhine and the Oder in Summer 1945, Berlin would have been hit with a small supernova.