Five Decades of Fear & Loathing

[KaiserDave]

Muskie comes off as sympathetic here, much more grounded then his counterpart there.

[KaiserDave]

Just read through. Wild, crazy, amazing stuff!

[KaiserDave]

I'm horrified by but also enjoying the Orwellian ultra-Maoist line in China. Imagining all the most erratic impulses of Mao taken to their extreme....


"We shouldn’t be afraid of atomic missiles. No matter what kind of war breaks out, conventional or nuclear, we will win… If the imperialists unleash war on us, we may lose more than 300 million people. So what? War is war. The years will pass and we will get to work making more babies than ever before."

[KaiserDave]

I don't think Bobby Seale was a racial separatist IRL. Interesting update nevertheless.

[KaiserDave]

Incredible stuff. Edge of my seat stuff.

[KaiserDave]

Sanchez’s work appears more realistic and less zany, which I like.

[KaiserDave]

I cannot sleep.
I cannot eat.
I cannot interact with friends.
I cannot interact with family.
I cannot go to work.
I cannot wake up.
I cannot watch sports.
I cannot do anything until I know what happened in Five Decades of Fear & Loathing.

[KaiserDave]

Great work Sanchez! Tremendous stuff! I audibly said "no f-cking way" when I saw the deadlocked EC. I'm so glad you're back. This is awesome.

I will say, I find the Democratic Party success in Vermont very hard to believe, especially with Wallace on top of the ticket. Stafford losing re-election is simply....extremely hard to imagine to the point of absurdity and I think you should change it (and I don't say that lightly). Wallace winning Vermont less so but still hard to see (Ford won it by 11, it's not out of the question), though I do acknowledge it is needed for the result.

I want to take this back. I still think both outcomes are less than likely, but I am far too harsh. Stafford only won by 5. Something was in the water in 1976 apparently...

[KaiserDave]

Great work Sanchez! Tremendous stuff! I audibly said "no f-cking way" when I saw the deadlocked EC. I'm so glad you're back. This is awesome.

I will say, I find the Democratic Party success in Vermont very hard to believe, especially with Wallace on top of the ticket. Stafford losing re-election is simply....extremely hard to imagine to the point of absurdity and I think you should change it (and I don't say that lightly). Wallace winning Vermont less so but still hard to see (Ford won it by 11, it's not out of the question), though I do acknowledge it is needed for the result.

I want to take this back. I still think both outcomes are less than likely, but I am far too harsh. Stafford only won by 5. Something was in the water in 1976 apparently...

Sorry for leaving you with a cliff hanger

But yeah, you actually are on to something about Vermont. I was initially going to save Stafford in the draft, but when I saw the actual Vermont results in 1976, and then take into account the stronger Liberty Union presence thanks to the Second Great Depression, I figured Drew had good enough reasons for putting Stafford out to pasture. It still feels a bit off to me, but there's some smoke there.

Yeah I should have checked 1976 results before I posted, I just assumed. I need to check if Leahy won here as well, assuming he did.

I still find it hard to believe a southern Democrat, especially Wallace, winning Vermont, even against a very conservative Republican, especially given the results elsewhere, but it's not out of the question.

[KaiserDave]

There's no way the electoral college survives this right?

[KaiserDave]

Horrified and scared as to what P-2 is going to do in Italy.

[KaiserDave]

The Italian failed coup story is genuinely inspiring.

[KaiserDave]

This is excellent.

[KaiserDave]

This is all excellent, but a slight quibble Sanchez. The Quebec Liberal Party has been entirely independent of the Liberal Party of Canada since 1955.

"until “a genuinely Quebec-oriented opposition is formed” – thereby suggesting that a sovereign Quebec would force the Quebec Liberal Party and other political parties with a Canadian national presence to shut down."

So in that sense the Quebec Liberal Party has no national presence at all, they are just federalist as opposed to sovereigntist. In fact, I don't think any party in Quebec had a national connection at all.

Also, my own disagreement, obviously Lévesque could be being misinterpreted here, but I don't think he would suggest banning parties at all. Contrary to some popular notions, Lévesque was not even that hardline of a nationalist, relatively speaking. In many ways he was a Social Democrat almost as much as he was a nationalist, and also he used to be a member of the Quebec Liberal Party. I think it's possible he might mean that he doesn't think non-PQ parties would prosper in an independent Quebec.

[KaiserDave]

Maybe I'm slightly confused, but the end of the Spanish monarchy seems to have happy quite fast. One second Juan Carlos was receiving massive applause for ending the Falangist state, and the next he is "scandal-plagued" and flees. Did we see what those scandals are? I do agree that he would go though. The monarchy would be finished.