That DSA takeover sure destroyed the party.
The battle was won not by the DSA but by the Democrats who unanimously resigned after the DSA takeover, split off from the DSA loons, and continued Reid's machine as if they still controlled the party.
And if Masto lost, you'd be laying the blame at the DSA. But we both knew that.
I really wouldn't. Is there even any record of me blaming them before the election when I thought CCM would probably lose? No. Because the DSA has been powerless ever since the "takeover" and I knew that. It wouldn't make sense.
Let's try to think logically rather than emotionally, because believe it or not that's actually what I try to do, rather than just side instinctively with my "team." (I have, after all, given credit where it is due before even if I despise the people doing it; you'll never catch me saying Mitch McConnell isn't a highly effective politician, for instance.)
Can you point to anything the DSA did to help CCM and the House Democrats win this election? At best you can say they weren't actively harmful. But this election was won by two things: Swaying independents and swing voters in the middle and turning out the old Reid machine. It certainly was not the product of a democratic socialist revolution. Claiming it as a victory for the DSA is completely asinine, at least as much as blaming it all on them would have been had it gone the other way. And who's to say you would not be blaming the old guard Democrats who split off after the takeover had CCM lost, despite crediting a DSA victory now? I'm guessing you probably were more ready to do that than I ever was to blame the DSA. I knew who was in charge in Nevada, and thus who would bear the responsibility for either victory or defeat.
I've already said on this board that neither the "Reid machine" nor the DSA deserve credit for Democrats doing well in Nevada. Good organizing has nothing to do with ideology or who the leadership supported in a primary. Nowhere else in the country is this debate being had.
Harry Reid is no longer around, the Culinary Union still is, and so is the same infrastructure that the icky DSAers used to the party's advantage. You are the one who's giving credit - specifically, to Democrats who split when they didn't get their way in the party - for the party's success.
The Culinary Union IS the Reid machine. The “Reid machine” is not dependent on Harry Reid being alive it’s just a name because he built it. This year the machine was organized through the Washoe Dems, it doesn’t make one difference to me who runs the state party I’m saying this because I think it’s worth mentioning.
