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KaiserDave
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« Reply #175 on: May 13, 2021, 11:03:55 AM »

I’m between the Mr. X and Crane camps here on Stringer. But yeah Scott should safe face and drop out.
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« Reply #176 on: May 13, 2021, 06:01:03 PM »
« Edited: May 13, 2021, 06:14:42 PM by KaiserDave »

The live NY1 debate has begun, I am watching and will update

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3IRl0ydH2M
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« Reply #177 on: May 13, 2021, 06:10:41 PM »

Opening Statements Summarized

Dianne Morales: "I'm ready to be Mayor" (lol), choose the future.
Andrew Yang: I'm not connected to the city machines, hopeful, optimistic, big change
Scott Stringer: I've been here a while, seen the issues, lost my mom to COVID. NY is resilient and tough, and I know the issues.
Kathryn Garcia: I'm the crisis manager, I delivered meals, plowed the streets, pumped the water during Sandy. Make NYC livable for everyone. Oh by the way I was endorsed by the New York Times.
Eric Adams: We're in a crisis, I've been here in New York forever, I've been struggling and fighting for our city at every level.
Maya Wiley: "I am Maya Wiley." I'm a civil rights advocate, time to challenge inequality, make things better. End police violence, I'm a mom, won't accept ongoing police violence. First Mom Mayor.
Ray McGuire: "Relentless" recovery. I'll turn things around, I'm an outsider, not connected to the machines. I'll get things done.
Shaun Donovan: Time to rebuild. I have experience rebuilding our city. Obama trusted me after the Great Recession, and leading the recovery from Hurricane Sandy. I "have bold ideas and a track record to make those ideals real"

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KaiserDave
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« Reply #178 on: May 13, 2021, 06:28:34 PM »

They're discussing crime, and Dianne tried to pivot away from her disastrous NYT answer on crime, saying she acknowledges the issues with crime but wants to move away from the policing approach.

Also just saying, “Show of hands” gimmicks in debates are beyond idiotic
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KaiserDave
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« Reply #179 on: May 13, 2021, 07:22:38 PM »

Adams really is terrible. What a non answer on his preference of Giuliani to Dinkins. Giuliani, an insane narcissist, Dinkins, a dedicated public servant.

"Hillary was a Goldwater girl so me being a conservative Republican in the 90s is fine!"
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« Reply #180 on: May 13, 2021, 07:29:34 PM »

Adams: I was the leading voice against stop and frisk!
Also Adams: Bring! It! Back!
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« Reply #181 on: May 13, 2021, 07:35:17 PM »

Adams: I was the leading voice against stop and frisk!
Also Adams: Bring! It! Back!

He's an awful and disrespectful debator.
He started by laughing off the question and tried to spin it on Wiley.
I'm looking forward to not voting for him in the GE when/if he wins the nomination.
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KaiserDave
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« Reply #182 on: May 13, 2021, 07:49:50 PM »

It's not a Morales housing answer if she doesn't shoehorn in "housing is a human right."
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« Reply #183 on: May 13, 2021, 08:05:06 PM »

Adams and McGuire are such liars. Saying they both haven't voted for Republicans before. I don't believe them for a second.
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« Reply #184 on: May 13, 2021, 08:29:05 PM »

How will the general public interpret this debate, likely speaking?

It is likely to have minimal effect in my opinion
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KaiserDave
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« Reply #185 on: May 13, 2021, 09:51:21 PM »
« Edited: May 13, 2021, 10:02:44 PM by KaiserDave »

I liked Wiley, she took on Adams the most and was effective, but I still think she's an out of touch pundit. Stringer would be so great if he wasn't so compromised. As for Garcia, the good is just accompanied by a lot of bad. Morales remains completely unqualified and unprepared and terminally online.
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« Reply #186 on: May 13, 2021, 10:17:52 PM »

Dianne seems to be digging in on the ideological battlefield that public safety should be divorced from police. Regardless of your view on the ideology, this is a high politically disadvantageous position.
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KaiserDave
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« Reply #187 on: May 14, 2021, 10:41:38 AM »

Dianne seems to be digging in on the ideological battlefield that public safety should be divorced from police. Regardless of your view on the ideology, this is a high politically disadvantageous position.
I would contest that point a bit generally, but i do see where you're coming from.
HOWEVER, it has been very politically advantageous for Dianne to be the only one in the race to have that position. Got her to 10%  matching funds, and a gang of delusional supporters (not a dig, sometimes delusions are necessary to win campaigns).

The debate didn't make me want to vote for any of them. As a city worker, it never felt like they were speaking to me. Felt like they were speaking to the journalists who'll summarize the debate later.

You're right, especially given she came from political obscurity. Creating a loyal base of supporters was the right move to give her any chance at spreading her message. Not that it'll give her any chance to win.
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KaiserDave
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« Reply #188 on: May 14, 2021, 11:57:05 AM »

Latest Change Research poll has Garcia?!?!?! surging into third, and a 50/50 tie between Yang and Adams in the last round. Morales at 5% and eliminated in third round.
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KaiserDave
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« Reply #189 on: May 14, 2021, 12:10:48 PM »

Latest Change Research poll has Garcia?!?!?! surging into third, and a 50/50 tie between Yang and Adams in the last round. Morales at 5% and eliminated in third round.
Not surprising. A lot of people are speaking highly of her behind the scenes.
Well I know city workers are big fans of her, but that doesn't always manifest in the electorate. I'd say it is incredibly surprising, giving this represents her support over tripling within a week. But if this poll is true must all do our part and rank her somewhere.
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KaiserDave
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« Reply #190 on: May 14, 2021, 01:00:17 PM »

Would there be/is there a way to have a mock NYC election on the forum?

Something I’ve thought about
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« Reply #191 on: May 17, 2021, 06:21:29 PM »

We're so doomed.


Caution of course, as this is Memerson. But bad stuff folks. Please rank Yang 5th to stop Adams.
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« Reply #192 on: May 18, 2021, 09:10:11 AM »


His durability in the polls suggests to me that had these allegations not existed he would be leading against Yang. He almost certainly would have gotten the NYT endorsement too
Pre-scandal, I had growing confidence (and at the time, happiness) that Stringer was going to pass Yang. And yes, he would have absolutely gotten the NYT endorsement.
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KaiserDave
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« Reply #193 on: May 18, 2021, 01:24:01 PM »

Big News in the Race for Mayor

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/16/nyregion/eric-adams-fund-raising.html

New York Times TEARS into Adams

https://www.thecity.nyc/2021/5/16/22439168/dianne-morales-water-meter-bribe-probe

Dianne Morales in Hot Water
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KaiserDave
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« Reply #194 on: May 25, 2021, 10:07:11 PM »
« Edited: May 25, 2021, 10:17:57 PM by KaiserDave »

Morales is crashing and burning. She is done.

Garciamentum is real. Undecideds and people just now approaching the race are breaking for her hard.
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KaiserDave
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« Reply #195 on: May 25, 2021, 10:17:11 PM »

Interesting situation we got here folks


Competitors
Andrew Yang, Eric Adams, Kathryn Garcia
Periphery of Competition
Ray McGuire, Maya Wiley, Scott Stringer
Field
Shaun Donovan
Immolation Watch
Dianne Morales


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KaiserDave
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« Reply #196 on: May 26, 2021, 11:03:16 AM »

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/nyc-elections-2021/ny-nyc-mayoral-race-dianne-morales-property-tax-exemption-20210526-qdcby3qsfrhbvijdl2v7qkeafq-story.html


It's only getting worse
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KaiserDave
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« Reply #197 on: May 26, 2021, 11:27:22 AM »

Garcia is a good manager, and good on housing, transit, and just generally making the city work, but she is way too conservative on criminal justice and education.
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« Reply #198 on: May 26, 2021, 11:44:40 AM »

Yeah, it's...bad
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« Reply #199 on: May 27, 2021, 02:51:53 PM »

The entire Morales campaign team is out. It's over.
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