Ukraine general discussion

[KaiserDave]

Is Yulia Timoshenko still politically relevant at all? (Also your thoughts on her)

Is Zelensky still sufficiently anti-Russia if still an obvious incompetent?

[KaiserDave]

Oh god

I mean it wasn't hard to predict that a comedian with no political experience would be an incompetent moron. But....yikes.

Any chance of Arseniy Yatsenyuk returning to prominence?


Also opinion of these videos


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX2-yBdUSuU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWFjMlDaNkc

[KaiserDave]

Oh god

I mean it wasn't hard to predict that a comedian with no political experience would be an incompetent moron. But....yikes.

Any chance of Arseniy Yatsenyuk returning to prominence?


Also opinion of these videos


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX2-yBdUSuU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWFjMlDaNkc

Chances are that Yatsenyuk will return to big politics are minimal. He is extremely unpopular in Ukraine and no one will vote for him. He really is not the best, but not the worst Prime Minister of Ukraine in history. After his resignation in April 2016, Yatsenyuk disappeared. In all this time I saw him only 1 time before last year's parliamentary elections on one of the unknown TV channels

Personally, I want to see Volodymyr Groysman as Prime Minister. He is an outstanding leader. At first he was the mayor of Vinnytsia, the city where I live. When he only became mayor, the city was in decline, it was one of the poorest and dirtiest cities in Ukraine, with lots of garbage on the streets, spontaneous markets, and abandoned factories and homes. In just 2-3 years he was able to put things in order here. And since 2013, Vinnytsia has been recognized as the most comfortable city in Ukraine for life. He rebuilt the infrastructure, greened the city, and trashed the garbage problem.

When Groysman was Prime Minister, he did everything he could to help the well-being of the people. It has lifted the economy, substantially inflated inflation and raised social payments to the bare minimum. He fought with Poroshenko to lower utility tariffs for people.

I am neutral in these videos. I almost always like political parodies. These are, however, a bit outdated.

Is Yatsenyuk in the most pro European school of Ukrainian politics?

[KaiserDave]

Any chance of Poroshenko comeback?

[KaiserDave]

Russia has seized sovereign Ukraine, no more should be ceded for some temporary, abstract "peace."

[KaiserDave]

Glad to see SOTP imploding

Who woulda thought an inexperienced comedian would be an awful President.

[KaiserDave]

Glad to see SOTP imploding

Who woulda thought an inexperienced comedian would be an awful President.

The Ukrainian people were subjugated to so much stress and lies, especially since 2014, that they were willing to accept anything that was going to bring change for the sake of change. They didn’t have the comfort or know how from such stress to accurately reflect on just how much of a clown show things actually were.

The people themselves were fooled into supporting an incompetent oligarchic puppet that said what sounded nice over the various sullied, more predictable oligarchic puppets. So no, I can’t see why anyone should blame the voters and not the people and institutions that brought the Ukrainian people here.

I'm not blaming anyone, I'm just commenting on the ineptness of SOTP.

[KaiserDave]

How are things in Ukraine Andriy?

[KaiserDave]

Zelensky is historically incompetent. What a disgrace. Poroshenko may very well be corrupt, but he wouldn't ROLLING OVER.

Disgraceful. And Germany too, disgraceful.

[KaiserDave]

https://twitter.com/expatua/status/1487032303050280963

I love everything about this, especially the beard.

[KaiserDave]

Zelensky is historically incompetent. What a disgrace. Poroshenko may very well be corrupt, but he wouldn't ROLLING OVER.

Disgraceful. And Germany too, disgraceful.

Keeping the calm and the economy running is very different from rolling over. You're acting as if Russia has invaded the country already, when for all we know, this may just be an exact repeat of the 2021 tensions situation.

Not to be a pedant
But they already did in 2014
I just feel as if Ukraine has a lot to lose by sacrificing readiness at this point