NY 2022 - Zeldin/Esposito, Libertarian & WFP updates

[KaiserDave]

WHAT
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1585050957703831552?s=20&t=Rtbh94lCO...

It's definitely easy to see, from her performance in this debate, why Hochul could very well be upset by Zeldin.

That quote is literally fabricated. You aren't even watching the debate this is so incredibly dishonest. You are not being honest, you are not being even handed, and its showing.

No, she didn't say that, but her actual comment wasn't that much better. But as I was saying in the Oz thread, people are going to crawl over broken glass to vote for this woman.

The actual comment was completely different! One has nothing to do with the other! Just admit your surface level knowledge on the debate (not even watching) led you to unknowingly share false information.

[KaiserDave]

WHAT
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1585050957703831552?s=20&t=Rtbh94lCO...

It's definitely easy to see, from her performance in this debate, why Hochul could very well be upset by Zeldin.

That quote is literally fabricated. You aren't even watching the debate this is so incredibly dishonest. You are not being honest, you are not being even handed, and its showing.

No, she didn't say that, but her actual comment wasn't that much better. But as I was saying in the Oz thread, people are going to crawl over broken glass to vote for this woman.

The actual comment was completely different! One has nothing to do with the other! Just admit your surface level knowledge on the debate (not even watching) led you to unknowingly share false information.

I'm not conceding on this one, especially since I wasn't the one who shared the tweet.

Errant nonsense.

Of course, you come into here and defend Hochul. As I said before, you think every Republican candidate is terrible and every Democratic candidate is excellent.

When someone posted the actual, real video, you accused them of being a hack for debunking what is fake news! You have been dishonest.

[KaiserDave]

WHAT
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1585050957703831552?s=20&t=Rtbh94lCO...

It's definitely easy to see, from her performance in this debate, why Hochul could very well be upset by Zeldin.

That quote is literally fabricated. You aren't even watching the debate this is so incredibly dishonest. You are not being honest, you are not being even handed, and its showing.

No, she didn't say that, but her actual comment wasn't that much better. But as I was saying in the Oz thread, people are going to crawl over broken glass to vote for this woman.

The actual comment was completely different! One has nothing to do with the other! Just admit your surface level knowledge on the debate (not even watching) led you to unknowingly share false information.

I'm not conceding on this one, especially since I wasn't the one who shared the tweet.

Errant nonsense.

Of course, you come into here and defend Hochul. As I said before, you think every Republican candidate is terrible and every Democratic candidate is excellent.

When someone posted the actual, real video, you accused them of being a hack for debunking what is fake news! You have been dishonest.

I'm done conversing on this. Done, absolutely done.

Not sure why you're being so adversarial. It's pretty cut and dry, someone shared a fake, absolutely fictitious quote, and I'm saying it was wrong to amplify it when you didn't even watch the debate. I've done that before, it's bad!

[KaiserDave]

WHAT
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1585050957703831552?s=20&t=Rtbh94lCO...

It's definitely easy to see, from her performance in this debate, why Hochul could very well be upset by Zeldin.

That quote is literally fabricated. You aren't even watching the debate this is so incredibly dishonest. You are not being honest, you are not being even handed, and its showing.

No, she didn't say that, but her actual comment wasn't that much better. But as I was saying in the Oz thread, people are going to crawl over broken glass to vote for this woman.

The actual comment was completely different! One has nothing to do with the other! Just admit your surface level knowledge on the debate (not even watching) led you to unknowingly share false information.

I'm not conceding on this one, especially since I wasn't the one who shared the tweet.

Errant nonsense.

Of course, you come into here and defend Hochul. As I said before, you think every Republican candidate is terrible and every Democratic candidate is excellent.

When someone posted the actual, real video, you accused them of being a hack for debunking what is fake news! You have been dishonest.

I'm done conversing on this. Done, absolutely done.

Not sure why you're being so adversarial. It's pretty cut and dry, someone shared a fake, absolutely fictitious quote, and I'm saying it was wrong to amplify it when you didn't even watch the debate. I've done that before, it's bad!

Let me quote verbatim what she actually said (~0:17 in this clip):

"I don't know why that is so important to you." That was in response to his criticisms of her policies on crime. She didn't say what was initially attributed to her, but her actual comment isn't any better. At any rate, more argument is not going to produce a consensus on this.

I don't know, what's worse saying  "I don't know why locking up criminals is so important to you" or saying "I don't know why that is so important to you." in as a part of a larger sentence where it's unclear what she's even replying to. I keep watching that clip waiting for a big screw up or for Zeldin to pounce and it never happens.

[KaiserDave]

What is everyone's final prediction for the margin here.

I don't think it will be close to single digits. Hochul +14 or +15 seems a bare minimum. So she wins a full term 57.5-42.5%.

I'd be shocked if Hochul wins by double digits at this point. If she does, then that means NY-GOV was fool's gold for the Republicans.

We'll see, it's still NY after all, and even in R-waves like 2010 and 2014, Cuomo won pretty easily.

True, but Hochul is much less popular than Cuomo, New York has been engulfed by a renewed crime wave over the past few years, and Cuomo had much more appeal in the NYC metropolitan area than she does. Mind you, I still expect her to win tomorrow, but if it's by a double-digit margin, that would show New York is completely unwinnable for Republicans.

I mean, New York IS unwinnable for Republicans so...

Anyhow, crime is down this year but the impression of crime is that it is high and that is what matters. I am predicting something like Hochul +8.

[KaiserDave]

The margin is not set, there are hundreds of thousands of mail ballots still out there. Remain calm.

[KaiserDave]

I think we have to seriously consider that LaSalle has kidnapped Hochul's family and is holding them hostage.