PA 2018: Wolf vs Wagner

[ctherainbow]

Scott Wagner pulling out all stops to LOSE this election-

https://www.pennlive.com/capitol-notebook/2018/09/we_are_being_invaded_republica.html

Well, this will get him more support amongst rural racists, who were already likely to support him, but further turn off suburban voters, who he needed to improve with to have even a snowball's chance in hell of winning.  Good job, Scott.   

[ctherainbow]

You’re backing Wolf I imagine?

There's no third-party candidate who has a snowball's chance in hell of winning, and Wolf is closer to my views than Wagner, so yes.    

[ctherainbow]

[ctherainbow]

Your response to Maineaic's question made me happy .

Gotcha!  I thought it was either that or that I'm a wee baby because I'm new to voting for Dems.   

[ctherainbow]

And pundits still be like “LIKELY Dem”...   

[ctherainbow]

“Likely D”.  Sure, pundits, sure.  Please remove your heads from 2016’s posterior, yeah?

I love that this race is shaping up to be between a guy who cracked down on animal abuse vs a guy who wants to walk on peoples' faces with shoe spikes.  Only the Keystone State(and large portions of the South and Plains, but still).  

[ctherainbow]

My hardcore Republican Soft-Trump supporter father just called me today and said he can't support Wagner. He wants to write-in Fetterman.

Same with my angry old white guy dad.  He’s disgusted with Wagner and is going to either write-in or vote Libertarian.

[ctherainbow]

Wagner winning the special election for his Senate seat was a fluke, and he barely even won the primary this year against some unknown named "Paul Mango".

If you were part of the LGBTQ+ community in Pennsylvania, Paul Mango was VERY well known for his disgusting views about trans* people.  As much as I dislike Wagner, Mango would have been worse, so I'm glad I was able to vote to take him out on the primary, even though it meant Wagner winning.   

[ctherainbow]

As an R in PA, do you expect a lot of your fellow Rs to vote Wolf? It would appear, anecdotally, that a lot of Rs are so put off with Wagner that they're either voting Wolf or leaving it blank.

I expect a lot of them to think about it, but I also expect most non-swing Republicans to step into the voting booth and vote Wagner anyway.  However, I do think, if the polling we have of PA bears out, that the small amount of Rs who cross over+energized Dem turnout will push Wolf close to 60%.

[ctherainbow]

My hardcore Republican Soft-Trump supporter father just called me today and said he can't support Wagner. He wants to write-in Fetterman.

Same with my angry old white guy dad.  He’s disgusted with Wagner and is going to either write-in or vote Libertarian.

I'm genuinely jealous of you guys in Shadow of the wave being able to watch your conservative old fathers register their disgust with Wagner and support wolf. My father is a longtime conservative in the Heritage Foundation mold, which he's contributed to a fair bit over the years. He's I suppose moderate on social issues, but a better way of describing it would be apathetic. Despite he and my mother having some gay friends in a number of acquaintances from their support of the Arts community oh, he was opposed to gay marriage before oberfell purely on the basis of tradition. Understand my father is agnostic. And there was no religious basis to his opposition. It was merely the way things have been for thousands of years so why change it. He's probably technically pro-choice in that if there was a referendum on the subject, so long as it didn't involve a penny of tax dollars being spent in support of it, he probably vote against repealing abortion rights. It just doesn't ranked in the top hundred factors to affect his vote, registering somewhere just below a candidate's position on shower tile grout.

Economically though, he's about as far right-wing as you can come without being some Paul tard that supports returning to the gold standard or getting rid of the Federal Reserve, both of which he thinks is absurd course having been a CPA for most of his life. But otherwise he's every bit as economically right-wing is Mitt Romney, perhaps more so, and further believe that global warming is a hoax having sustained much of his income over the years from the natural gas industry.

Anyway, he is an upright and moral man. I do recall fondly one time in a 1986 Senate race that he actually to my shock voted Democratic. Well, he also contributed to Jason Altmeyer when he first ran for congress, but I think that was for the primary, because they both served on the same Library board of directors. Anyway, I asked him why he voted so uncharacteristically oh, and he said that he briefly met our Republican state representative who was the Republican nominee for state senate at some JC's function picnic. He was just so personally turned off at what I'm glad handing back-slapping Jackass the guy was that he voted against him.

Fast forward 25 years, and I was almost broken-hearted to find out my dad voted for Wagner because he's convinced wolf has raised his taxes or will continue to do so. The guy who couldn't vote for a boorish jackass for state senate supported a guy who threatened to stomp on his opponents face with golf cleats for governor. I was so distraught and this bothered me, and frankly still bothers me, that I had to have a private talk with my younger sister, also a progressive, on how to deal with that. It's one thing to have different political views from your parents, but it's another to see them abandon an adherence to their fundamental core beliefs of requiring decency and integrity out of their elected officials first and foremost, not promises to cut taxes.

Sorry about your dad.  *hug*  I’ve had a similar experience with my mom; she used to be a paragon of virtue for me when she was growing up, and I’ve had to watch her turn into a Trumpster.  She was also disappointed when Wolf won, and would’ve likely voted for Wagner if she still lived in PA.