Obama's "church"

[JSojourner]

Hagee is a small-time bigot relative to Jeremiah Wright.  It's like comparing David Duke to Adolph Hitler.

By what standards? Hagee is on tv and has Republican candidates beating a path to his door, begging for his endorsement. No one would have heard of Wright if Obama hadn't belonged to his church.

Look at the annual revenue stats for Hagee and his mega-million dollar so-called "ministry".  I'd say Wright is small potatoes in comparison to Hagee.  

[JSojourner]

How much of this are we going to take? His pastor, his wife's tactics, his good friend who led the Weather Underground group .. it's getting a bit ridicules. I don't always believe in guilt by association, but there must be a place to draw the line. It's becoming apparent that Obama isn't associated with the nest people in the world. Perhaps the far left isn't bothered by it, but they are fascinated with those who hate America and deem them individuals and free-thinkers.

Ohh, poor baby! Don't worry. I won't let mean old Barack and the scary liberals hurt you. OhH the injustice!

You evidently haven't seen Birth of a Nation, have you?

I am sure Barack, Pastor White, Farrakhan, Jesse, Al and the rest of them are already planning to round up de white wimmin!

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[JSojourner]

The other choice was John Kerry.  LOL

Yeah, a decorated war hero with a solid grasp of foreign and domestic policy and the ability to speak in complete sentences was a lousy choice in comparison to a former coke-head, dry drunk chickenhawk who thinks our kids need a better ejumacation.

[JSojourner]

Yeah, a decorated war hero with a solid grasp of foreign and domestic policy and the ability to speak in complete sentences was a lousy choice in comparison to a former coke-head, dry drunk chickenhawk who thinks our kids need a better ejumacation.

That may be true, but that's still a pointless insult that's not all that relevant to why Bush was a bad president.

Let me change it, then.

Yeah, a decorated war hero with a solid grasp of foreign and domestic policy and the ability to speak in complete sentences was a lousy choice in comparison to a former coke-head, dry drunk chickenhawk who thinks our kids need a better ejumacation and who lied, deceived and obfuscated our way into a war fought solely for the purpose of enriching his defense contractor cronies and the House of Saud.

Hope that is more fair and balanced.

[JSojourner]

Attacking Obama for the church he attends which also is attended by Oprah is not going to work.

I don't think you need to attack him (or her) over it, but just ask why he would be a part of a congregation that is led by a minister which he doesn't agree with.  Call me crazy, but if you didn't agree with your Ministers message, wouldn't you leave and go somewhere else?

Usually, yes.  It depends on which messages you disagree with.  I disagreed with our former Priest on a number of issues -- the war, her support for Bush, abortion rights and gay marriage.  But I stayed in the church because I agreed with her on the issues of the divinity of Jesus Christ, salvation by grace alone, the resurrection and the real Presence in the Eucharist. 

Her position on political issues bothered me.  We argued sometimes.  But I learned so much from her theologically, devotionally and ecclesiastically.  I also learned how to agree to disagree.  Agreeably! LOL

But you make an excellent point, Mod, that shouldn't be ignored.  Obama needs to be crystal clear about what he agrees with his Pastor on and what he disagrees with him on.  And then he needs to explain how he has expressed that disagreement and to what extent.  I am fine with him saying, "I love Pastor Wright because we're brothers in Christ and we believe the same things about Jesus."  But I would like him to add that, "I have deep and serious concerns about his political leanings.  I have told him so in no uncertain terms and I want the American people to understand that I disavow what he has said about 9/11, (or whatever else Obama might object to)."