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snowguy716
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« on: August 19, 2007, 10:24:16 PM »

I'm just wondering, even if you think our health care system needs to be changed, why do you think the government can sucessfully manage it? Hasn't the government already proven that it can't even count votes or keep bridges safe? Why do you think the government will take care of your health any better through a single-payer system?

Conservatives claim that government doesn't work.  Then they get elected and prove it.

My state is the closest of any to universal health care with only 8% uninsured and we have pretty generous state-run healthcare programs that are much easier to deal with than private insurance companies.

And I don't like the way you couple "universal health care" and "single payer" together.  Universal health care simply means that everybody has access to adequate health care.  I would advocate a system where the government should insure all children under 18 and college students under 25, the elderly, the disabled, those who have no access to or cannot afford coverage, and those that are considered uninsurable.

Healthy people between 25 and 64 are responsible for finding their own insurance, and they must have it by law.  Doctors should prescribe what patients need and what they prescribe should be legally binding to insurance coverage.  Since hte highest risk people (elderly, disabled, poor) would not be privately insured, the insurance companies would be able to take more risks with healthy middle-aged individuals and so making the doctor the boss in the whole equation would be best.

Government does not tell you what is right for you, you don't tell you what's right for you, and your insurance company doesn't decide what's best for you.. your doctor does.  He/she didn't go through over a decade of college to be sidelined by the financial interests of your insurance company.

What makes you so sure that private insurance companies can handle your health, Southpark?
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snowguy716
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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2007, 12:16:56 PM »

Also, if the government fails at something, the people can vote them out of office. People can't vote a corporation out of office.

Well, not directly. Someone could "vote" for Walmart over Costco by shopping there. If a corporation fails to make a profit, which can be obtained by having enough "votes", then they go out of buisiness. Conversely, corporations that make profits by having enough "votes" prosper. Presumably, people will "vote", as in buy from, for the corporation that provides the lowest cost and the best customer service. Considering that this happens on a quarterly basis (because that is when corporations get their profits), while government elections happen on a two year cycle, that would mean that corporations reflect the electorate 8 times better than the government.

Wow.  You read like an economics text book.  Unfortunately, the real world operates a bit differently.  But I applaud you for actually believing what you just wrote.  That takes guts.
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