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« on: October 21, 2018, 10:24:59 AM »

Poisin the well, muddy the waters....don’t believe anyone!

The #metoo movement is pretty much ruined and over.
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2018, 11:09:22 AM »

It sounds like he told Dhillon his story and she responded quickly, kindly, but skeptically and suggested he contact Ronan Farrow who took 8 days to respond the same way but asked for more info.

If he is telling the truth, he is letting his experience blind him with a double standard that holds Democrats or liberals to stricter, higher standards while lowering the standard for the right, which in his alienated state, appears the only place he can run to.

The real truth here is that gay men are sexually assaulted all the time and they are still subject to many of the attitudes that are now seen as atrociously inappropriate towards female survivors...like he wanted it...he asked for it...what did he expect, acting like that etc
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2018, 11:24:17 AM »



Great, now everyone on the right, from normally reasonable moderates to liberty-conservatives are basically all a bunch of culture-war-fighting robots that treat deep emotional trauma and real sexual assault as a joke. Looks like the right will soon be completely emotionally bankrupt in the whole world, not just in my own country.
That’s what you got from this thread?  After you defined how “real” survivors of sexual assault would talk and dismissed the allegations?
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2018, 11:39:56 AM »



Great, now everyone on the right, from normally reasonable moderates to liberty-conservatives are basically all a bunch of culture-war-fighting robots that treat deep emotional trauma and real sexual assault as a joke. Looks like the right will soon be completely emotionally bankrupt in the whole world, not just in my own country.
That’s what you got from this thread?  After you defined how “real” survivors of sexual assault would talk and dismissed the allegations?

Yes. Unlike so many on the right (and some on the left), I don't cynically use sexual assault allegations. When something has even a shred of credibility, it mustn't be dismissed, but this thing is so painfully political and lacking any credibility that I won't believe it until he presents anything that supports the claim.
You said through your empty quote that it was a hatchet job and bullsh**t you wouldn’t fall for.  Then you talk about shreds of credibility.  Well, what “objective” shreds are we talking about?  Will your shreds be credible to others?  Perhaps my shred interpreting skills require a lower threshold to be credible.  Or perhaps I am biased and bullheaded and I need many shreds before I believe an admission and allegation of sexual assault.

I’m not interested in your subjective opinion of what defines credibility nor do I care for your quick deflection of this story into an attack on ‘the right’.

Try thinking critically, considerately, empathetically, and try to be as unbiased as possible.  This is serious sh**t.
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2018, 11:58:57 AM »



Great, now everyone on the right, from normally reasonable moderates to liberty-conservatives are basically all a bunch of culture-war-fighting robots that treat deep emotional trauma and real sexual assault as a joke. Looks like the right will soon be completely emotionally bankrupt in the whole world, not just in my own country.
That’s what you got from this thread?  After you defined how “real” survivors of sexual assault would talk and dismissed the allegations?

Yes. Unlike so many on the right (and some on the left), I don't cynically use sexual assault allegations. When something has even a shred of credibility, it mustn't be dismissed, but this thing is so painfully political and lacking any credibility that I won't believe it until he presents anything that supports the claim.
You said through your empty quote that it was a hatchet job and bullsh**t you wouldn’t fall for.  Then you talk about shreds of credibility.  Well, what “objective” shreds are we talking about?  Will your shreds be credible to others?  Perhaps my shred interpreting skills require a lower threshold to be credible.  Or perhaps I am biased and bullheaded and I need many shreds before I believe an admission and allegation of sexual assault.

I’m not interested in your subjective opinion of what defines credibility nor do I care for your quick deflection of this story into an attack on ‘the right’.

Try thinking critically, considerately, empathetically, and try to be as unbiased as possible.  This is serious sh**t.

You know exactly what I mean. The difference between the highly political language of this allegation and Ford's emotional testimony is like the difference between an ant and an elephant. Trying to spin this into some trashing of the very important #metoo movement is highly cynical.

This is, indeed, serious sh**t, and when posters mock an entire movement that is so important for so many traumatized women as a joke, I can't not call them out.
I’m glad you admit you believe this is a movement for women.  And I detest your insistence that victims must speak “traumatese” or whatever you think it is.

Basically in your mind, in order to be taken seriously, you must be a woman, and you must be a shriveled, terrified, emotional wreck when coming forward.

Perhaps since this was an allegation against a prominent politician that occurred at a political event in the workplace to a politically engaged fan of the alleged perpetrator could explain the political language.  Just a thought.
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2018, 12:39:24 PM »

I’m flabbergasted by all of the responses in this thread.  People mocking the #metoo movement, people dismissing the allegation right out the door with no further information, people insisting victims must act and talk a certain way or be a certain gender, using this as a cover to attack the right...

My only takeaway is you all think you’re experts at parsing real allegations from fake ones, that you know real victims because they all act a certain way, or you don’t take any of the #metoo movement seriously and just want to poisin the well and muddy the waters to discredit future allegations before they come out.

Yuck.

Let’s wait for more information.  Let’s withhold judgment. 
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2018, 06:43:58 PM »

Poisin the well, muddy the waters....don’t believe anyone!

The #metoo movement is pretty much ruined and over.

Because we doubt the authenticity of an assault allegation made by an anonymous twitter user being peddled by the Gateway pundit Roll Eyes
I think it would be better if when an allegation of this calibre cones out that you wouldn’t run your mouth before there is more information or some time has passed with no further action or information.  

Before Ford came out it was just some random letter being peddled by a known Democrat.  There is enough comparability there to shhhhhhhhhhh.
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