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« on: May 25, 2023, 09:44:26 AM »

December has nine cases that include 303 Creative and Moore v. Harper. Assuming the latter isn't dismissed as moot, each Justice should be writing once. Roberts, Kagan, Gorsuch, and Kavanaugh have yet to write a majority opinion for that sitting.


So dumb question, what happens if a justice just always dissents from the majority? They just don't get an opportunity to write for the majority?
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2023, 11:37:45 PM »

Given past recent history in tribal cases, I'm surprised Gorsuch didn't have the majority opinion here.
It appears that he wanted to go further than the majority.

Gorsuch is easily the most fascinating justice. Broadly conservative, except for being extremely progressive on Native American rights. Is there something in his background/upbringing that would have led him to this stance?
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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2023, 09:05:23 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2023, 09:11:48 AM »



Apparently this is all we're getting? Nothing on student loans or affirmative action...
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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2023, 03:35:07 PM »

So 303 Creative is almost surely a conservative win no matter which of those 3 writes it.

Not necessarily. The plaintiff very clearly lacks standing, so it could very well be a 7-2 (Alito and Thomas dissent) ruling.
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2023, 06:22:19 PM »

IDK, remember the "reeducation program" comments from Gorsuch during oral arguments.   That's a pretty clear sign the side of a case arguing for broader LGBTQ rights won't be able to count to 5.

Bostock v. Clayton County would like a word.
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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2023, 09:05:50 AM »
« Edited: June 22, 2023, 09:24:39 AM by Ferguson97 »

Arizona v. Navajo Nation, 5-4. Majority written by Kavanaugh. Gorsuch joins the liberals in the dissent.

"The court holds that the treaty at issue does not require the federal government to take the affirmative steps that the Navajo Nation contends."

Pugin v. Garland, 6-3 (but not the breakdown you're expecting). Kavanaugh writes the majority again. Sotomayor dissents, joined by Kagan and Gorsuch. Jackson joins the conservatives.

"The court holds that an offense can "relate to obstruction of justice" for purposes of this statute even if the offense does not require that an investigation or proceeding is pending."

6-3, Yegiazaryan v. Smagin. Majority written by Sotomayor. Alito dissents, joined by Thomas and Gorsuch.

"This was a case involving two Russian citizens, in which the question was whether a foreign plaintiff whose only injury was to intangible property – such as a court judgment – has suffered the kind of domestic injury required to bring a claim under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act.

The Ninth Circuit ruled that the plaintiff had alleged a domestic injury, and the Supreme Court today upheld that ruling."

6-3, Jones v. Hendrix. Majority written by Thomas. Liberals dissent.

"This was a case filed by a federal inmate, Marcus Jones, who in 2000 was convicted of being a felon in possession of a firearm and was sentenced to more than 27 years in prison. In 2019, the Supreme Court ruled that the statute under which Jones was convicted requires prosecutors to show that the defendant knew that he was barred from possessing a gun – something that the government did not do for Jones, who contended that he believed that his record had been expunged. The question before the court was whether and how Jones can now challenge his detention when federal habeas corpus laws generally prohibit inmates from filing more than one petition for habeas corpus.

The court holds that Jones cannot proceed under 28 USC 2241, the general habeas corpus statute."

[This is the final opinion of the day]
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2023, 01:11:25 AM »

Saw a lot of buzz about the last one on Twitter. Can someone explain this case for dummies?

20 years ago, a man named Marcus Jones was convicted of possessing a firearm as a felon, which is illegal under 18 U.S.C. § 922.

He repeatedly challenged his conviction in U.S. district and circuit courts, but the courts kept denying him, including the Eighth Circuit.

Rehaif v. United States, a 2019 Supreme Court case, ruled that in order to convict someone under 18 U.S.C. § 922, the government has to prove that the defendant knew that it was illegal for them to carry a firearm.

The Supreme Court is the law of the land, meaning it overrules any lower court rulings.

As such, Marcus Jones figured "hey, this Rehaif ruling sounds pretty good for me, it pretains to the exact law I was convicted under! I'm gonna try and appeal my sentence again" since per the Court's ruling, the government has to prove that Jones knew it was illegal for him to carry a firearm as a felon. Jones has testified that he didn't know it was illegal (he incorrectly, but genuinely, thought that his record was expunged).

There is another law called Section 2255, which ordinarily prevents federal prisoners from challenging their conviction or sentence more than once.

Clarence Thomas said that Jones cannot appeal because he already tried (and failed) to do so.

The biggest problem with Thomas's ruling is that Jones' appeal happened before the Rehaif decision - meaning that the way that 18 U.S.C. § 922 (the law Jones was convicted under) has to be enforced, has changed.

Clarence Thomas basically said "too bad, so sad - Section 2255 says you can't appeal again". Even though the Supreme Court changed the way that the law he was convicted of breaking has to be enforced.

Section 2255 does have some exceptions, one of which is "unless based on either “newly discovered evidence,” §2255(h)(1), or “a new rule of constitutional law,” §2255(h)(2). 

It would seem plainly obvious that the Rehaif is an example of the latter exception. Clarnce Thomas, however, disagrees, stating that: "This argument fails because it would extend the writ of habeas corpus far beyond its scope when the Constitution was drafted and ratified. When the Suspension Clause was adopted, Jones’ Rehaif claim would not have been cognizable in habeas at all. At the founding, a sentence after conviction by a court of competent jurisdiction was in itself sufficient cause for a prisoner’s continued detention."



tl;dr, Kagan and Sotomayor sum it up well
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A prisoner who is actually innocent, imprisoned for conduct that Congress did not criminalize, is forever barred by 28 U. S. C. §2255(h) from raising that claim, merely because he previously sought postconviction relief. It does not matter that an intervening decision of this Court confirms his innocence.  By challenging his conviction once before, he forfeited his freedom
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2023, 12:12:45 AM »

I think the Court will side with Biden in the student loan case, mostly because I just have a very difficult time imagining a scenario where the court finds that Nebraska has standing but not Texas.
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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2023, 09:13:50 AM »

Roberts has affirmative action. It's struck down on 14th Amendment grounds, 6-3.

Disappointing but not surprising.
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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2023, 09:45:26 AM »

Wow, the made-up case is even more made-up? What a shock.

SCOTUS cannot in good conscience release its decision with this new information. Is there a mechanism for them to say "whoa hold on we gotta re-argue this"?
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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2023, 10:26:22 AM »

Wow, the made-up case is even more made-up? What a shock.

SCOTUS cannot in good conscience release its decision with this new information. Is there a mechanism for them to say "whoa hold on we gotta re-argue this"?

Legitimately, no, appellate courts like SCOTUS may not take new evidence that was not introduced at the level of the lower court. They may only review legal procedures. After-discovered evidence can be used to file a motion for a new trial, particularly in criminal cases, but you would start from the bottom all over again. You cannot submit after-discovered evidence to SCOTUS (or for that matter to any of the circuit courts).

Seems like a massive oversight.
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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2023, 12:02:40 PM »

Between the awful 303 Creative and student loan decisions… it’s clear that this Court has no legitimacy. The plaintiffs had no standing. This is a rogue court.
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« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2023, 12:50:50 PM »

Between the awful 303 Creative and student loan decisions… it’s clear that this Court has no legitimacy. The plaintiffs had no standing. This is a rogue court.

The student loan decisions are, like, overwhelmingly popular. I don't think the Supreme Court's legitimacy comes from always doing what the public wants -- in that case it could never have legalized interracial marriage -- but these decisions are both pretty obviously on the right side of a huge majority of public opinion if you take even a cursory look at it.

Lol, that poll from Cato is laughably bad.

The topline question actually says that 64% of respondents support student loan forgiveness.

It's only when you add those disingenuous tradeoffs (it will raise your taxes, it will raise tution) does it show that people oppose it.

Nice try, though!



But regardless, like you said, the Supreme Court's legitimacy doesn't come from public opinion.

Can you defend the Court's decision on constitutional merit alone?
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