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Question: Should water be considered a public good?
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Yes
 
#2
Lean Yes
 
#3
Neutral
 
#4
Lean No
 
#5
No
 
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Total Voters: 30

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Chuck Hagel 08
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« on: March 28, 2009, 09:14:45 AM »

Answered No misunderstanding the question. Water should be provided by the market, but no one should prevent another person from accessing water. However, they can prevent that person from accessing their water.
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2009, 05:30:26 PM »

Where are people denied access to clean water?

All over the world, mainly the third world.
Well yeah, but what are we going to do?  We don't care about the third world and you know it.  If we cared we wouldn't sit by and let warlords kill millions while we twiddle our thumbs and argue about it on the internet.

"Letting them" isn't as much of a problem as "encouraging them" by sending them hundreds of millions of dollars in aid and propping them up with our CIA.
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2009, 09:16:52 AM »

It might be more effective albeit more dangerous to take it into your own hands to arm people in third-world countries. I don't think most people would want to die in the name of toppling some third-world government. Also, given the sheer number of third-world countries they are, do you have any idea what that would do to our debt? Even if it were a good idea to use the American armed forces to topple third-world governments, we simply cannot afford to. A more effective solution would be to cut off all foreign aid and abolish the CIA.
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2009, 11:20:19 PM »

Sure, that could work too (arming the locals).  I don't think it would be as big of an undertaking as it would seem at first.  After the third or forth oppressive govt is toppled, the rest will get in line or try and form together against us.  Either way it leads to the death of more evil.

And no, America couldn't and shouldn't do this alone.  We should create a new world organization that only liberal democracies with free markets can join.  Then start kicking the bad guy ass.  Starting with the easiest.

Yeah, it's not going to happen and there would be lots (and LOTS) of death in the short term and not all of those deaths would be bad guys.  It would be hard and it's not even feasible today or in the immediate future....but assuming it goes well, we could enter a great new era for man.

How's that going in Iraq and Afghanistan? I simply don't see how one can justify robbing from people here to overthrow tons of governments overseas, and causing tons of collateral damage in the process. Do the ends of overthrowing murderous regimes justify the ends of robbing killing people? I say no.
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