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« on: June 07, 2023, 02:20:28 PM »

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Since the summer 2021, after the assassination of Haiti’s de facto president, Jovenel Moïse, the U.S. and its western imperial partners have been trying to send armed foreign military to forcefully occupy the country. They first tried, unsuccessfully, to get the UN Security Council to approve a non-UN-led military force to Haiti. Then, the US tried to convince Canada to go it alone and lead a foreign armed mission to Haiti. Canada, in turn, tried to convince members of the Community of Latin American and States (CELAC) to intervene in Haiti - to no avail. The US also sent its ambassador to the UN, Linda Thomas-Greenfield, to Brazil to convince the government of Lula da Silva to take the lead, once again, in occupying Haiti. Finally, they turned to the intergovernmental organization, the Caribbean Community (CARICOM) to lead the effort in sending a military force to Haiti. Some members of CARICOM, especially the neocolonial stooge, Prime Minister of Jamaica, Andrew Holness, readily took up imperialism’s call to stifle Haitian sovereignty. A high delegation of CARICOM members went to Haiti back in March to “meet with politicians and other officials there to discuss security issues facing the country.” A follow up meeting is scheduled for next week, June 11-13, when an “Eminent Persons Group” (EPG) appointed by CARICOM Heads of Government, will meet in Jamaica to purportedly find a solution for Haiti’s problems - in terms of western-identified questions of “security, governance, the electoral process,” etc.

There’s already a popular uprising against the gangs by the Bwa Kale movement. Haiti doesn’t need outside help.
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2023, 11:01:49 AM »

I suppose a “popular uprising” is only on the tables when the United States supports it? Hopefully Haitians drive out the gangs and the foreign invaders who have drove the island to poverty since its inception. In all that time their spirits have not been broken.
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2023, 12:26:55 PM »

I suppose a “popular uprising” is only on the tables when the United States supports it? Hopefully Haitians drive out the gangs and the foreign invaders who have drove the island to poverty since its inception. In all that time their spirits have not been broken.

Requesting and receiving foreign aid to stabilize Haiti is obviously better than having an island-wide turf war between the cutthroat gangs and the Bwa Kale vigilante squads who stomp people to death. There is little reason to believe that unorganized vigilante groups will be able to defeat the gangs nationwide if left to their own devices, occasional local successes aside. There also isn't any reason to believe that the rule of unorganized vigilante mobs would be good in the first place, even if it were a marginal improvement over current gangs. I know that a "people's revolution" of some form is an important part of your bizarre socialist eschatology, regardless of whether it takes the form of a descent into anarchy led by vigilante death squads. However, a vast majority of normal people think that would be a bad outcome. The best thing that could happen for Haiti is an intervention by it's neighbors to restore order, followed by a return to elected democratic government.
Oh yeah, because the last time there was an invasion of Haiti democracy was “restored” and brought about this current regime which shoots at protestors and financed these gangs in the first place. The US and its lackeys are not interested in what is best for the Haitian people.

Your worship of the liberal, US-aligned government as the natural and best state of affairs for the world has never been wrong. History doesn’t end here.
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2023, 04:02:55 PM »

Most of the people with the money and connection to be in politics are the ones supporting the gangs, and yes they would be shameless enough to beg peacekeepers to stay and keep a leash on the gangs while arming the gangs to shoot at their political opponents and peacekeepers. Only by first purging the elite of Haitian society, especially including it's "government" would democracy stand any chance of functioning.

Those are often the people who know how to run the country i.e. how the electricity system works. Revolutionaries do not always make good actual leaders.
The current crisis was started when Haiti fell into massive power outages over the current government’s corrupt dealings with Venezuela fell over. Haiti has been in serious crisis ever since Aristide was replaced by these losers.

And to be honest the only solution to any of these moments of peril has been to get mercenaries to shoot at protesters. First they contracted the gangs, and when they revolted, the bigwigs were going to hire the Wagner Group.
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2023, 10:40:33 PM »

Aristide was doing pretty well as Haiti’s president until he was overthrown by Bill Clinton, just sayin
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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2023, 11:50:28 AM »

I'm normally against invasions, but this might be a rare case where it makes sense.
Not you too jfern
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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2023, 11:21:48 PM »

The United States cannot give “proper guidance”. It gave “proper guidance” to Afghanistan and Iraq and that failed completely.
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