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PSOL
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« on: July 28, 2022, 02:00:19 PM »

Is Paulo Freire’s work really that complicated to understand? I don’t know how it reads in Portuguese, but in the English translation while it wasn’t the easiest work to get through, it isn’t that far off from most academic writing and for the most party the important bits of a) the self-destructive and crablike mentality of most people is due to capitalist alienation b) education must be used to uplift peoples mentality and teach them against the bull•••• of hating themselves and each other and preach for solidarity action against injustice. He used very easy metaphors and examples of such things in the book. At some point the point that his work is too complicated to read or that he’s being unhelpful in calling out concern trolls is gaslighting by people opposed to the book, plain and simple.

A significant portion of Marx’s ethos is dumbing down Hegel’s elitist obscurantism enough to be understandable to most people, and his work remains even more readable and less dry than any of his antecedents—like Ricardo or Smith—and fellow contemporaries.

Hegelism, in its being, is utilizing reality and common sense to perpetuate elitism. Hiding the truth from those of lesser stock is entirely the point, as they can say people calling out their bull•••• are dumb and that they are far enlightened and have reached a new phase of consciousness. You can see this in action at the nonsense spewed by regulars on Atlas After Dark, a hotbed of Young Hegelianism and peak Karen liberalism envisioned by Fillo whatevs, Geoffrey Howe, Xahar, Snowstalker contrasting with the equally incomprehensible elitist conservatism of Georg Ebner and MarkD.
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2022, 05:40:19 PM »

Is Paulo Freire’s work really that complicated to understand? I don’t know how it reads in Portuguese, but in the English translation while it wasn’t the easiest work to get through, it isn’t that far off from most academic writing and for the most party the important bits of a) the self-destructive and crablike mentality of most people is due to capitalist alienation b) education must be used to uplift peoples mentality and teach them against the bull•••• of hating themselves and each other and preach for solidarity action against injustice. He used very easy metaphors and examples of such things in the book. At some point the point that his work is too complicated to read or that he’s being unhelpful in calling out concern trolls is gaslighting by people opposed to the book, plain and simple.

I think this is a totally reasonable question about Freire, to be clear. It's usually obvious what he's getting at, so it's fair to ask, that being the case, whether the into-the-weeds nature of some of his specifics is really that big a deal when it comes to understanding him.
From the examples of the worker drinking too much due to alienation and the peasants being confused on what to do with the landowner they kidnapped, Freire provides pretty self-explanatory examples and he even states why they act the way they are.
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