Mass Protests in Cuba

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Cuba recently has lifted Covid social distancing restrictions, and with the perfect mix of economic retraction and already being in a state of siege mentality since Trump got rid of normalization, there is of course going to be these protests. I do feel for the Cuban people getting rammed for nothing.

Saying this, this whole thing and the energy of boomers and VoA outside Cuba flagging this online is very similar to previous protests I’ve seen astroturfed in English and Farsi to the Iranian diaspora. No way are these anything substantial or threatening given the repeated lies by previous social media boostings. Cuba’s threats to regime change are entirely external given the fact that since the late 1980s they have tried to bridge the gap between the people and the party and have done a pretty good job at handling the Coronavirus crisis.

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You know, I think things will be rosy after all. Apparently the protesters are Trotskyists or hardish DemSocs if LeftVoice can be believed. That may point to Cuba coopting some of their demands and not going as hard on them as one would think given their recent record of treating protestors of all stripes.

Given the possibility that this protest could get coopted, either by the current leadership or through more unsavory characters forcing a regime change like what went out of hand in 1956 Hungary, a nuanced view must be taken. Critical recognition of the protesters demands for a better, more democratically ran system with reforms attempting to ensure rising living standards. However, the Cuban government has a responsibility to the Cuban people to protect it from any internal and external threat to the people, and thus anyone working to overthrow this government right now for a Dictatorship of the Bourgeoise must be stopped at all costs in the short term.

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You know, I think things will be rosy after all. Apparently the protesters are Trotskyists or hardish DemSocs if LeftVoice can be believed. That may point to Cuba coopting some of their demands and not going as hard on them as one would think given their recent record of treating protestors of all stripes.

Given the possibility that this protest could get coopted, either by the current leadership or through more unsavory characters forcing a regime change like what went out of hand in 1956 Hungary, a nuanced view must be taken. Critical recognition of the protesters demands for a better, more democratically ran system with reforms attempting to ensure rising living standards. However, the Cuban government has a responsibility to the Cuban people to protect it from any internal and external threat to the people, and thus anyone working to overthrow this government right now for a Dictatorship of the Bourgeoise must be stopped at all costs in the short term.

An addendum I would add is that no matter the course or aftermath of this, the CPC and alternative progressive forces apart and outside of it need to build a blueprint to multi-party democratic elections instead of electing independent politicians as the system operates now. Kadar’s Czechoslovakia accepted every demand of the 1956 People’s Party but that one, and it was a fatal mistake for the workers movement.

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Yeah, this is a color revolution.

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I have my doubts a revolution would be best at this time for Cuba. Also, I would say people here defending Cuba were supportive of the reforms made in the past few decades, and want them to accelerate into a healthy democracy.

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I mean, you and all those who liked this ARE aware of the CIA's past record, right?

I don't think the people being shot at for protesting police brutality and for economic justice and a right to freedom of assembly care. The cartoon is a travesty of people in this thread who have said that they give their "full support to the Cuban government" in imprisoning and disappearing peaceful protesters because they're undermining the Communist Party.

No one here has done this.

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Cuban Trotskyist under house arrest after release from jail.

While this is a broad movement currently out on the streets, and many are fighting for their rights, many rightist opportunists waving US flags and wanting to bring about Decommunization and Lustration are taking cover and conspiring. Cuba needs to be lighthanded and selective in use of force.

Clear and sweeping reforms of improving human rights and providing a dynamic economy through a crackdown on corruption is needed in the near future after the protests die down.

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America also forced Romania among others of the old Eastern Bloc o pay compensation for U.S. property nationalised by the communists after the Iron Curtain finallly fell and they were white.

It is NOT as simple as EVIL WHITEY AND POOR BROWNEY and never has been.

You have two modes: Palestinians Band and Brown people bad. If you aren't going to say anything worthwhile please refrain from posting

This is Sunrise’s s•••posting account, so he will keep on going.

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The Cubans need to seriously understand that socialism cannot be done in one country and having the same economic structure when none of the other nations have the same ones, regardless of sanctions, is ultra-left nonsense. Cuba has no colonies to patch up a flailing economy and their economic system makes avoiding blame impossible thanks to government control of most of the economy. In the conventional capitalist world; people blame the workers, managers, HR, CEOs, corporations, and then President and government but rarely shareholders in that order. The policy decisions of Guevara and the Cuban left broadly, at least in spirit, were correct as is a necessary policy to ensure that revolutionaries are promoted in governments in Latin America and not reformists like in Peru.

It is disappointing that the CPC has failed across the board in providing the necessary decisions to ensure high living standards, its disappointing that they allow NGOs and religious fundies at the direct control of the United States to continue being a problem, it’s disappointing that they haven’t followed Vietnam’s example of success by having a much more open culture that is all about making fun at their enemies first and allowing free speech to not be threatening to a major extent, it’s disappointing that they did not have a heart to heart in trying to ensure that their allies in Latin America don’t act like dumbasses and that they have the humility to learn from them.

Any pre-revolutionary event will be hijacked by the United States. If such a thing occurs I support them cracking down hard and learning from the successes of when the PLA saved China in 1989. However they need to then ensure that such a thing never happens again by promoting a good standard of living and not the legalistic nightmare that’s often the case with the Chinese model.

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wow

"Cuba has been disappointing in presenting it's version of a left wing economic system and the people are starving, but I sure hope they drop the hammer hard an anyone that tries to stop that."

That is a very disturbing view you have and share with leftists the world over and throughout history.

It can always get worse and it did in most of the ex-communist world.

If that’s all you got from my post you are a fool.

https://havanatimes.org/features/the-year-when-the-most-cubans-left-for-the-united-states/

In 2022 2.4% of Cuba's population has left for America. Clearly just proof of American ethnic cleansing of a whole country.

Most of it is US policy, yes.

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It can always get worse and it did in most of the ex-communist world.

Oh look, another sheltered Westerner mourning bloodthirsty totalitarian regimes that align with his ideological larping and therefore were axiomatically good. Easy to do when you don't have to live with their consequences.

Check your privilege, sweetie.

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Nah, most of it is because Cuba has no allies at all and they failed to bring about allies due to revisionism and failure at making alliances. Parties that imitated the CPC line failed to succeed anywhere in Latin America and were sectarian in refusing to engage with forces that knew what must be done to take power.