NYC Mayor/2021 Megathread

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Well now that there isn’t a chance of Adams running a write-in campaign, ensuring that this race is safe D, I’m going back to abstaining from this race.

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Yeah, recent events have made me warm up to Cathy Rojas.

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https://mobile.twitter.com/rojas4mayor2021/status/1435271647028785152

Only time before an official DSA endorsement and a Jacobin profile. You know, I thought the DSA and PSL were too sectarian and uptight to work together, but I guess I am wrong. I guess painting oneself against the people who tactically voted in your favor isn’t smart after all.

This won’t impact the already safe D race, but it does pave the way for Left Unity in the future in causing some pretty nasty upsets locally. What with the PSL and DSA combining both electoral and mutual aid efforts in creating dual power, and we have an opening for a Labor alliance.

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Endorsing a PSL candidate is not cool Julia. PSOL didn't you say they were a cult not long ago?

After talking with some people currently in and out of the party, from the Chicago-based allegations of harassment there’s been a purge in that branch. That and admittedly I got conned by some Twitter influencer who I later realized was a lying hack.

The PSL does have problems with burnout of Cadres and a poor organizational structure, but given all the mutual aide work they’re doing and the multiple assaults they’ve been inflicted by the authorities, it’s a no-brainer I would choose the PSL over the crazy copper or the gang leader.

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Anyway there’s more endorsements for Cathy Rojas

https://mobile.twitter.com/iamcarolyntran/status/1435665121037230085
https://mobile.twitter.com/iamcarolyntran/status/1435665121037230085

She’s shaping up to be the progressive in a race with a machine politician and the terrorizer of the New York Metro.

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Could Rojas potentially be a spoiler candidate?

Part of me hopes she is so Sliwa can win , but the other part thinks she’s just an internet candidate and will be lucky to get 10% of the popular vote.

No.

Then at most what’s the highest she probably gets in the vote?

At most 5%. Given Eric Adams will win by +30% I don’t think it will matter.

PSL btw only received ~500 write ins for president. Factor in some disgruntled Working Families and DSA members and the Green Party and there’s her coalition.

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More endorsements and statements

https://mobile.twitter.com/rojas4mayor2021/status/1438147277747589122

https://mobile.twitter.com/rojas4mayor2021/status/1438159378000056323
Well that’s going to resonate to those harmed by Stop-and-Frisk

https://mobile.twitter.com/rojas4mayor2021/status/1438204438871748609

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The Working Families Party isn’t fielding a candidate this election, leaving Cathy Rojas as the undisputed progressive candidate and Eric Adams as the only Democratic Party candidate in the race.
https://mobile.twitter.com/rojas4mayor2021/status/1443988031741075457

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Any self-respecting person who knows the abuse caused by the police would do and say this. The question is, why are these dirty cops are donating to him in the first place?

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https://mobile.twitter.com/rojas4mayor2021/status/1444709004341612551

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https://mobile.twitter.com/rojas4mayor2021/status/1444709004341612551

She’s a communist

Well, at least I know who will stand for the Cab drivers like my Uncle in Philly after he got drowned in debt for medallion removals till Uber finally pushed him out the market and broke down his family.

Communism is pro-family, so there goes all the compassion.

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What's Andrew Yang going to be doing now that he lost the New York City mayoral Democratic primary?  Try again four years from now?  Attempt another quixotic run for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2024?  Or just stick to the private sector?  

Seems like the answer is become an irrelevant third-party crank.

If DSA was smart, they would not endorse the PSL candidate whose party engages in apologism for Maoist China etc. A cynical but clever move would be to endorse Curtis Sliwa who is running on a bunch of economic populist rhetoric and try to get him to make concessions in at least some areas.

You understand Sliwa is a gang leader who has terrorized the poor on the Metro, right? How would empowering someone like him, with his own personal army, help the working class? Seems like a great way to give the man political cover so he can use it to crush and destroy the DSA when he gets the chance.

Given I have actually studied the PSL, the whole concept that they are this extremist party is not the case. Over the past years they’ve shown pragmatism and moderation, exactly like the DSA.

If I can be honest, foreign policy and ideological programs of parties do not matter at all in how people perceive them and how they work together with other organizations. The PSL, for all it’s supposed radicalism, endorsed Sanders in the primaries and marches together with Sunrise for common ecological goals

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The case against Rojas is not that she's "bad on China" or whatever but that she's not going to win, and it's not clear to me how it would benefit DSA in any way to endorse her. DSA does not do "paper endorsements" and it's frankly a little late in the campaign to roll out an endorsement.

Cathy Rojas is basically a DSAer in all but party and could be a turning point in advancing the DSA’s interest in the city. That’s like saying Eugene Debs’ runs were bad for the socialist movement because he had no chance.

DSA actually has done “paper endorsements” in the past and works with other parties and groups no problem, doing this would help the DSA get street cred and form tactical alliances with the PSL for anything related to mutual aide, anti war stuff, canceling evictions, and possible electoral partnerships and alliances with the PSL later.

Not doing so is quite sectarian and only seems to divide the struggle.

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I believe this is the first Union endorsement

https://mobile.twitter.com/rojas4mayor2021/status/1446504838754353153

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The case against Rojas is not that she's "bad on China" or whatever but that she's not going to win, and it's not clear to me how it would benefit DSA in any way to endorse her. DSA does not do "paper endorsements" and it's frankly a little late in the campaign to roll out an endorsement.

Cathy Rojas is basically a DSAer in all but party and could be a turning point in advancing the DSA’s interest in the city. That’s like saying Eugene Debs’ runs were bad for the socialist movement because he had no chance.

DSA actually has done “paper endorsements” in the past and works with other parties and groups no problem, doing this would help the DSA get street cred and form tactical alliances with the PSL for anything related to mutual aide, anti war stuff, canceling evictions, and possible electoral partnerships and alliances with the PSL later.

Rojas is not Eugene Debs lmfao. Anyway, DSA has a policy against paper endorsements, and your argument is "no they don't."

I have never claimed that she was, only that it makes sense not to build a working relationship with the PSL and direct people away from the awful Democratic candidate. It preps the voters on GOTV discipline.

No they don’t, they have endorsed Greens in Maryland and California before just fine with little work.

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I'd probably vote for Rojas if I was a New Yorker, but let's not pretend like she has the slightest chance to even come close to winning.

Neither did Debs or the SDP in the 1870s, yet it was a start of something much bigger.

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I'd probably vote for Rojas if I was a New Yorker, but let's not pretend like she has the slightest chance to even come close to winning.

Neither did Debs or the SDP in the 1870s, yet it was a start of something much bigger.

Hope springs eternal, I guess, but I'm gonna need evidence that this is anything more than the umpteenth third-party lefty candidate who's going to go down as a footnote and make no impact on anything.

Well then, let’s use an analogy

In 1885, the United Kingdom held an parliamentary election. Would you have chosen the pragmatic and expected option of the Liberals or have backed the strains that would become the Labour Party; the Lib-Labour list and Social Democratic Federation? Would you have even backed the Chartalist movement before in its split from the Liberals?

All great movements start off small, it grows if those people in the know of the need for such a movement join it. Do you want to build the American workers movement? Well here is a chance to vote for them.

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I'd probably vote for Rojas if I was a New Yorker, but let's not pretend like she has the slightest chance to even come close to winning.

Neither did Debs or the SDP in the 1870s, yet it was a start of something much bigger.

Hope springs eternal, I guess, but I'm gonna need evidence that this is anything more than the umpteenth third-party lefty candidate who's going to go down as a footnote and make no impact on anything.

Well then, let’s use an analogy

In 1885, the United Kingdom held an parliamentary election. Would you have chosen the pragmatic and expected option of the Liberals or have backed the strains that would become the Labour Party; the Lib-Labour list and Social Democratic Federation? Would you have even backed the Chartalist movement before in its split from the Liberals?

All great movements start off small, it grows if those people in the know of the need for such a movement join it. Do you want to build the American workers movement? Well here is a chance to vote for them.

Hindsight sure is 20/20, so it's pretty easy to pick one of the instance where a fringe left-wing movement grew to become a major party and ignore the hundreds of instances where that didn't happen. Not to mention that the material conditions that were driving the rise of social-democratic parties in 19th century Europe have very little to do with those affecting US society today.

Anyway, to answer your question, you bet I probably would have voted Liberal in 1885, at least assuming I was in a competitive district. Are you seriously expecting me to risk handing the country to the reactionary Tories for the off-chance that a bunch of scattered leftist movements might one day grow into a mass party?

We’re in the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression and have had continuous working class uprisings in Black Lives Matter and the fresh waves of strikes since the start. The level of class consciousness in the United States is at an all time high.

Off the bat you are abandoning any real chance at building the movement, instead taking the easy route and hoping that by being subservient, you can get the concessions you want through appeasement instead of real work. That is some serious lack of imagination even with all the hindsight in front of you.

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https://mobile.twitter.com/rojas4mayor2021/status/1452646812792283147

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https://mobile.twitter.com/thenation/status/1455241984403202051

This is the biggest media coverage of the PSL or their candidates since their #StopAsianHate rallies. This just adds to the grassroots momentum of the PSL in their heavy campaign push last week. I’m excited to see how they do!

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Does anyone have the results from all the candidates?

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Does anyone have the results from all the candidates?

NYT has all candidates:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/11/02/us/elections/results-nyc-mayor.html?action=click&pgtype=Article&state=default&module=styln-elections-2020&region=TOP_BANNER&context=election_recirc

I’m blocked, but refreshing it lets me peek at it

That 3% for Rojas is basically the overall left vote from prior elections dampened by Covid making electoral work for a party’s first try difficult.

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How did Cathy Rojas do in the Haitian neighborhoods?