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« on: April 21, 2020, 03:37:13 PM »
« edited: April 21, 2020, 05:35:23 PM by PSOL »

LGBTQ children’s books face record calls for bans in US libraries
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Attempts to remove books from libraries across the US rose almost a fifth last year, with children’s books featuring LGBTQ characters making up 80% of the most challenged books.

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They pointed out that, in the five years before 2015, the year same-sex marriage was legalised across the US, LGBTQ books never made up more than 20% of ALA’s top 10. Since 2015, they have accounted for at least 40% of the list. This year, the proportion is 80%.

“When LGBTQ stories are silenced in this way, LGBTQ youth and children from LGBTQ families get the message that their own stories – their very lives – do not have value, that they are shameful,” their statement read...
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2020, 04:16:42 PM »

The books in question are not pornographic in any way, they just depict character that aren’t hetero cisgender folks. Censoring kids from reading these books are keeping them away from reality, that some of the people that they know or their own selves are gay.  
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2020, 04:44:03 PM »
« Edited: April 21, 2020, 05:10:16 PM by texasgurl »

How is this a war on homosexuality? How about this isn't a subject parents should need to discuss with their kids until they reach a certain age?

At what age is it appropriate for my nieces to know that their uncles are gay?

Of course, children should know their family. If the books said something to the extent of "some men are married to women, some men are married to men, some women are married to women", I would have no problem with that.
These books basically do that

Well at least your more honest then some people on here.
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2020, 05:10:46 PM »

Looks like the mods are censoring what conservatives believe again. Sad!
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2020, 05:35:47 PM »

Title is misleading as a decent number of complaints are anti-trans and not anti-gay. This is just another example of why "LGBT" is a bad way of referring to people, as it others not only the gay community but the trans community as well.

Very few still care that my hypothetical kid would have two fathers but a lot of people would care if I started changing his gender when he was six. I mean, I'm never having children but anyone with half a brain sees the two have nothing to do with the other.
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2020, 06:48:54 PM »

LGBT people make up only 4.5% of Americans, so I don't see why couples of that sort need to be "normalized" at all.

Imagine somebody making this argument about other small-ish minority groups--Jews, Muslims, atheists, Asian-Americans, etc. They'd be laughed out of serious discussion.

Those are races and religions though.
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2020, 10:30:35 PM »

Book banning is stupid, no matter what.
All literature has some value and brings important perspectives to the table (except for Twilight)

This is something parents really should be deciding on based on how mature their children are.
That being said, these topics should generally be reserved for a later age, probably 7-8 imho.



If children were exposed from birth to the very normal reality of same-gender couples, there'd be no need for this to be a "topic" worth "reserving."
By default, it is abnormal, and a concept most little kids wouldn’t fully grasp. I think it varies from child to child, some kids are mature enough to understand the issue at a very young age. Also context matters, the idea of same-gender couples itself is pretty benign, but the LGBT politics and culture really aren’t.
What exactly is this LGBT “politics” and “culture” you speak of?
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2020, 11:20:00 PM »

STRONG disagree. I stand with the Duchess of Philadelphia, Camille Paglia. Your farcical modernist moral maxim is an awful lens for assessing decadence. I have much bigger problems with your second list than some of the smaller negatives on your first list.
I stopped reading there.
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2020, 11:28:42 PM »

STRONG disagree. I stand with the Duchess of Philadelphia, Camille Paglia. Your farcical modernist moral maxim is an awful lens for assessing decadence. I have much bigger problems with your second list than some of the smaller negatives on your first list.
Can you please elaborate? I would like to understand on a deeper level what your greivances are and why you think they're valid.
She’s a conservative hack masquerading as a Feminist. She doesn’t even believe homosexuality exists.
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2020, 01:26:00 AM »

Historically, for every "culture war win" the left has, the backlash becomes much more painful. But the millennials leave me little hope, and I can only hope for their apathy and disengagement. And I'm hardly optimistic about that stopping the social decadence to come, but I don't think the tsunami will stop before we are wiped out. We may have reached the most half-hearted backlash to date.

When America is relegated to a second class country, at least we will still have our craft beer, our sexual identity and, if we're lucky, our 9 point touchdowns.
Social decadence is cheating, lying, ghosting, etc. Threesomes, gay sex, trans sex, pegging, BDSM and cuckoldry are certainly not everybody's cup of tea, but it's consenting adults doing what they like in private and nobody's getting hurt.

Well...
They aren’t getting hurt without consent badly if done properly.
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