Wisconsin Megathread v2: Hagedorn vs. Neubauer

[Zaybay]

I doubt the "Kavanaugh bump" is going to be a thing in a swing state. Maybe if Wisconsin actually were as red as North Dakota, but since voters nationwide disapprove of Kavanaugh, I imagine the numbers aren't too different in Wisconsin.

I'll also guess Evers +3, as well as Baldwin +10.

Still indicates a massive tightening (WOW voters coming home to their natural place).

You must really have a low standard for a massive tightening if a two point shift is massive to you. Also, Obama got BTFO in Waukesha both elections and won them comfortably. Please delete your account, thanks.

You must be forgetting one (not-so) tiny little detail...Dems have collapsed in the Driftless since then.

Oh, If only there was a way to see whether of not this is still true. If only there was a primary, or some judicial election, or even just a poll broken up by region, if only we had that!

Yeah, because that is more indicative than, I dunno, a highly divisive presidential election where lines were drawn in the sand. Gee, when was the last time that happened? Can someone Wikipedia what the county map looked like for Wisconsin?

The poll hasn't released yet and you guys are already getting defensive at people posting their analysis that doesn't fit yours.

Hofoid, you analysis is as good as consulting the oracle and checking the entrails of a sheep. There is no proof that such a drop in the Driftless was sustained, and there is definite proof to show that it has reversed. I get your whole act is Safe R WI, but this is ridiculous. No one has assumed that Evers is getting his lead thanks to WOW.

[Zaybay]

This entire garbage is entirely the reason that the WISC is so important in the coming two years. The Dems have one seat up in 2019, and the GOP has one up near the primary season in 2020. Winning both would give the Ds a majority on the court and prevent such disgusting abuses(and would also get us a court map for redistricting).

[Zaybay]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/lame-duck-wisconsin-republicans-vote-weaken-incoming-democratic-governor-attorney-n944001

the bill passed 17-16.

I feel a bit sorry for Wisconsin. Like in NC, the GOP-controlled legislative passes bills with provisions which where declared illegal for the n-th time. Just keep trying, maybe the SC will turn the previous ruling upside down.

The 2 most questionable measures( extra primary/elections for judical elections, stripping the AG from making ligitations) have been skipped, yet:
- disempowerment of the Governor in one of the core competencies(negotiating as head-of-government, which is the definition of a Governor)
- Executive Boards as parallel governments established
- Voting rights in peril and limited (EV, oversight of the executive disbanded)
- Original law bill published minutes before
- Own legistlative rules of the senate disregarded (a law must be passed 3 times on different sessions)

I do not know about how american/wisconsonite judges consider this legal, yet all these points are in the realm of constitutional law, but the according processes changing the constitution with amendments etc has been disregarded. The early voting provisions are repeatedly struck down, and the law itself has not been passed appropiately to their own legislative procedures.

Thus all bills of the #WIPowerGrab should be null and void. But who knows what the WISC does this, as there are clearly two sets of law: one for the WI GOP, and a stricter one for the rest of the state's citizens.

Conservatives have a one seat majority in the Wisconsin Supreme Court, but if liberals can hold their open seat this year and knock off the conservative incumbent in 2020, they could take the majority and start hacking away at a lot of the crap that has taken place under the Walker regime.

Yep, the SC takes priority now to stop the WIGOP. It could also get us a non-partisan map for the 2022!

[Zaybay]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/lame-duck-wisconsin-republicans-vote-weaken-incoming-democratic-governor-attorney-n944001

the bill passed 17-16.

I feel a bit sorry for Wisconsin. Like in NC, the GOP-controlled legislative passes bills with provisions which where declared illegal for the n-th time. Just keep trying, maybe the SC will turn the previous ruling upside down.

The 2 most questionable measures( extra primary/elections for judical elections, stripping the AG from making ligitations) have been skipped, yet:
- disempowerment of the Governor in one of the core competencies(negotiating as head-of-government, which is the definition of a Governor)
- Executive Boards as parallel governments established
- Voting rights in peril and limited (EV, oversight of the executive disbanded)
- Original law bill published minutes before
- Own legistlative rules of the senate disregarded (a law must be passed 3 times on different sessions)

I do not know about how american/wisconsonite judges consider this legal, yet all these points are in the realm of constitutional law, but the according processes changing the constitution with amendments etc has been disregarded. The early voting provisions are repeatedly struck down, and the law itself has not been passed appropiately to their own legislative procedures.

Thus all bills of the #WIPowerGrab should be null and void. But who knows what the WISC does this, as there are clearly two sets of law: one for the WI GOP, and a stricter one for the rest of the state's citizens.

Conservatives have a one seat majority in the Wisconsin Supreme Court, but if liberals can hold their open seat this year and knock off the conservative incumbent in 2020, they could take the majority and start hacking away at a lot of the crap that has taken place under the Walker regime.

Yep, the SC takes priority now to stop the WIGOP. It could also get us a non-partisan map for the 2022!

Evers veto pen "should" be enough there. Also given how off-year and special elections have looked in Wisconsin, I feel pretty good about the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

Yeah, he can still veto, but a court drawn map would likely be fairer, and give us a tossup district in the South of WI.

If I were to give a rating to the WISC, I would say tilt/lean D.

[Zaybay]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/lame-duck-wisconsin-republicans-vote-weaken-incoming-democratic-governor-attorney-n944001

the bill passed 17-16.

I feel a bit sorry for Wisconsin. Like in NC, the GOP-controlled legislative passes bills with provisions which where declared illegal for the n-th time. Just keep trying, maybe the SC will turn the previous ruling upside down.

The 2 most questionable measures( extra primary/elections for judical elections, stripping the AG from making ligitations) have been skipped, yet:
- disempowerment of the Governor in one of the core competencies(negotiating as head-of-government, which is the definition of a Governor)
- Executive Boards as parallel governments established
- Voting rights in peril and limited (EV, oversight of the executive disbanded)
- Original law bill published minutes before
- Own legistlative rules of the senate disregarded (a law must be passed 3 times on different sessions)

I do not know about how american/wisconsonite judges consider this legal, yet all these points are in the realm of constitutional law, but the according processes changing the constitution with amendments etc has been disregarded. The early voting provisions are repeatedly struck down, and the law itself has not been passed appropiately to their own legislative procedures.

Thus all bills of the #WIPowerGrab should be null and void. But who knows what the WISC does this, as there are clearly two sets of law: one for the WI GOP, and a stricter one for the rest of the state's citizens.

Conservatives have a one seat majority in the Wisconsin Supreme Court, but if liberals can hold their open seat this year and knock off the conservative incumbent in 2020, they could take the majority and start hacking away at a lot of the crap that has taken place under the Walker regime.

Yep, the SC takes priority now to stop the WIGOP. It could also get us a non-partisan map for the 2022!

Evers veto pen "should" be enough there. Also given how off-year and special elections have looked in Wisconsin, I feel pretty good about the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

Yeah, he can still veto, but a court drawn map would likely be fairer, and give us a tossup district in the South of WI.

If I were to give a rating to the WISC, I would say tilt/lean D.

Evers' veto would result in a court drawn map, just from a Federal Judge (Obama appointee) rather than the State Supreme Court.

I see, I thought the Federal Judge was a Trump appointee. My mistake!

[Zaybay]

So, early voting as been limited too, right? I thought somebody said there wasn't enough votes for it.

Nope that happened, even though it was recently reinstated via a court order just a couple years ago.

Seriously?? Well, that's going to help to ensure WI goes to Trump in 2020 and GOP victories in WI in 2022. Ridiculous!

Lets not get hyperbolic. It may move the state a bit more to the right, but, especially with how badly Ds want to vote, it shouldnt have a large effect to the point that it makes WI vote R when it should have voted D. The court will also have a word to say about such a law.

[Zaybay]

This has nothing to do with the election, but Im just getting flashbacks to last year, lurking on the forum and reading the thread on the election of WISC Judge Dallet. Good times. Seems like we are heading for a repeat of that.

[Zaybay]

All eyes on the Driftless

[Zaybay]

So far, Lisa is overpreforming in the Driftless, but of course, that could change.

[Zaybay]

So basically the driftless is having to make up for Milwaukee failures for Dems?

Yep, the WWC is coming in to save the Suburban degenerates from the Republicans.

[Zaybay]

Geez, this is down to the wire. Terrifying, yet exciting at the same time.

[Zaybay]

The vote is just a rollarcoaster at this point.