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Question: Who Would You Vote For In a Matchup
#1
Phil Bredesen (D)
#2
Marsha Blackburn (R)
#3
The Libertarian
#4
Other
#5
Undecided
#6
Abstain
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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« on: July 31, 2018, 09:58:54 AM »

Here's what could help Blackburn against Bredesen : during Bredesen's time as Governor (2003-2011), he raised taxes by nearly $1 billion and here's the result. It caused an increase of unemployment in Tennessee from 5.6 % in 2003 to 9 % in 2011 while getting at its highest rate in 2009 which was 10.5 %. I think that's a good hit for Blackburn to describe Bredesen as too liberal for Tennessee.

https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/news/story/2010/dec/28/bredesen-tax-legacy-may-be-tough-act-to-follow/37946/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/190725/unemployment-rate-in-tennessee-since-1992/

Correlation \=\ Causation, it was most likely the financial crisis that caused the unemployment spike, and even then, thats not that large. But voters are not the brightest, so I will argue on its usefulness.

 If Blackburn was smart, and shrewd, she would use this to dismantle Bredesen's profile as a great governor, or, as you said, a Liberal. The problem is that Blackburn's campaign so far has been more focused on how Bredesen is not like Trump, which is a poor strategy IMO. Blackburn has also done nothing to increase her own popularity, which is rather poor. TBH with you, the fact that Bredesen is leading is 1/2 that Bredesen is a good candidate, and 1/2 Blackburn is one of the worst candidates in TN. I could see Alexander using this correctly, but not Blackburn.
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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,066
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Political Matrix
E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2018, 10:10:42 AM »

Here's what could help Blackburn against Bredesen : during Bredesen's time as Governor (2003-2011), he raised taxes by nearly $1 billion and here's the result. It caused an increase of unemployment in Tennessee from 5.6 % in 2003 to 9 % in 2011 while getting at its highest rate in 2009 which was 10.5 %. I think that's a good hit for Blackburn to describe Bredesen as too liberal for Tennessee.

https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/news/story/2010/dec/28/bredesen-tax-legacy-may-be-tough-act-to-follow/37946/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/190725/unemployment-rate-in-tennessee-since-1992/

I mean, such a raise in unemployment is pretty similar to what was seen throughout the country with the recession, right?

An argument similar to mine was successful in defeating Ted Strickland during the Ohio senate race in 2016 since under Strickland has, during his time as Governor of Ohio (2006-2010), raised taxes to the tune of $840 million, Ohio lost over 250 000 jobs and was ranked as the 48th state in terms of job creation, raising the unemployment rate from 5.6 % in 2007 to 10.3 % in 2010. That is one of the reasons why Rob Portman defeated Strickland in a landslide and by
20 percentage points.

https://www.politifact.com/ohio/statements/2010/oct/13/john-kasich/gop-challengers-labels-ohio-gov-ted-stricklands-ta/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/190710/unemployment-rate-in-ohio-since-1992/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Ohio,_2016#Endorsements_3
But that was probably not the main reason Ted lost. I can say that Martha lost in 2010 because she hated pickup trucks, but that is not the main reason. Ted lost most of his support from the Democratic Party, and was constantly underfunded after Portman began to increase his lead. It does not help that Trump won the state of OH by a large margin, which helped to pad out Portman's margin. Retreads also did rather poorly in 2016.

Very few races are decided by one issue.
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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,066
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Political Matrix
E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2018, 10:20:08 AM »

Here's what could help Blackburn against Bredesen : during Bredesen's time as Governor (2003-2011), he raised taxes by nearly $1 billion and here's the result. It caused an increase of unemployment in Tennessee from 5.6 % in 2003 to 9 % in 2011 while getting at its highest rate in 2009 which was 10.5 %. I think that's a good hit for Blackburn to describe Bredesen as too liberal for Tennessee.

https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/news/story/2010/dec/28/bredesen-tax-legacy-may-be-tough-act-to-follow/37946/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/190725/unemployment-rate-in-tennessee-since-1992/

I mean, such a raise in unemployment is pretty similar to what was seen throughout the country with the recession, right?

An argument similar to mine was successful in defeating Ted Strickland during the Ohio senate race in 2016 since under Strickland has, during his time as Governor of Ohio (2006-2010), raised taxes to the tune of $840 million, Ohio lost over 250 000 jobs and was ranked as the 48th state in terms of job creation, raising the unemployment rate from 5.6 % in 2007 to 10.3 % in 2010. That is one of the reasons why Rob Portman defeated Strickland in a landslide and by
20 percentage points.

https://www.politifact.com/ohio/statements/2010/oct/13/john-kasich/gop-challengers-labels-ohio-gov-ted-stricklands-ta/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/190710/unemployment-rate-in-ohio-since-1992/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Ohio,_2016#Endorsements_3
But that was probably not the main reason Ted lost. I can say that Martha lost in 2010 because she hated pickup trucks, but that is not the main reason. Ted lost most of his support from the Democratic Party, and was constantly underfunded after Portman began to increase his lead. It does not help that Trump won the state of OH by a large margin, which helped to pad out Portman's margin. Retreads also did rather poorly in 2016.

Very few races are decided by one issue.

For Trump to win so big in Ohio it was because of his focus on the loss of manufacturing jobs and to his promise to bring coal jobs back. Plus the 2016 Republican National Convention was held in Cleveland.
and Hillary won PA by a large margin thanks to the convention being in Philly.

Again, states are not won on sole issues. Coal mining did not convince the Urban areas to not turn out, nor did it convince the suburbs to go for Trump. Both manufacturing and coal would only work on the South of the state, specifically the Southeast, which is D downballot, but even then, that doesnt work on the rest of the state.

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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
E: -7.25, S: -6.50

« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2018, 09:47:30 AM »

This was a comment on the YT video:

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This is probably how tons of people who voted for Bredesen in the past feel. They may like him personally, but they can no longer vote for any member of the anti-white hate group. Hopefully he can make up for them with Williamson County RINOs, but I'm not optimistic.

Because a YT comment is representative of the entirety of TN.

If voters didnt want to vote for Bredesen to be a senator, we would see it in polling, and so far, it seems that this opinion is not shared by many.
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Zaybay
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2018, 03:14:03 PM »

Wow, that is surprising.
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