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Junior Chimp
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« on: May 09, 2004, 12:31:56 PM »

I could have just as easily made a thread "why boss tweed is a bitter, scared old man"
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2004, 01:03:03 PM »

Don't worry Shapey, he won't be on the ticket. We'd rather have him behind the scenes for when we win the presidency over you guys Cheesy
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2004, 01:09:15 PM »

You really seem to have a dislike for us Shapey, why is that?

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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2004, 01:12:44 PM »

Oh I wasn't trying to accuse you of anything, it just seems that most of your posts involving us have this really negative vibe attached to them. Forgive me if I'm wrong.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2004, 02:48:10 PM »

It's a good thing the voters don't care what Tweed says, otherwise we'd be in trouble.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2004, 11:09:36 AM »


The fact that the UAC is attracting people totally regardless of ideology is not the fault of anyone in the UAC, but it is really not good for the board.  

The UAC apparently conducts its internal party debates and primaries in private, off the board.  If the party were presenting a single cohesive ideology, this wouldn't be a problem...because the substantive debate would occur ON the board b/w a UAC candidate and members of the other parties.  

But if a plurality of the board joins the UAC, and then retreats to some private causus to hash out their vast differences before presenting the party platform and nominee, that pretty much defeats the whole purpose of these boards.  

The result will be that everyone except a handful will join the UAC, all the real debate will be on the UAC board, and the UAC candidates will just return to this board to run for office, winning every election.

Since we're a new party, we are still getting ourselves organized, and figuring out we want to run things. As the election draws near, and even afterwards, chances are we'll become much more public and steadfast than we appear to be now.

Our members haven't abandoned these boards, as you seem to imply.

And it still bothers me that a lot of people keep yapping about ideologies. We HAVE an ideology, and we've made it clear that it's not extreme left and not extreme right. We are "liberal" on numerous social issues while still promoting personal responsibility in regards to welfare and health care, and conservative on numerous economic issues.

Almost everyone who has joined us right now agrees with the vast majority of our platform -- anyone who joins simply to be part of the plurality is completely missing the point.

The original idea for the UAC and how it got started was that the two major parties here clearly had some problems -- the UAC took the challenge of becoming a strong third party, and it looks like we've succeeded.

If you want this to be competitive, you better stop complaining about us and start working on how to improve your own parties. After all, there's no guarantee the UAC will be around forever.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2004, 04:35:34 PM »


BTW, I'm pretty sure the Progressives did publish a  platform, though I'm certain its totally buried in the thread by now.  We were in the process of adding new planks at a party convention when the party fell apart.

You should really try to get the party back on it's feet -- I'm sure with enough support, you could easily get it back to its previous stature.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2004, 03:16:47 PM »

We're all proud of you, Shapey. You deserve a cookie for that prediction.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2004, 03:28:32 PM »

If you think we're confused Shapey, then you must be appalled at the state of the other two parties. If I were you, I'd worry about re-electing Nym right now.

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