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« on: October 29, 2007, 09:10:04 AM »

This is an outrageous interference with regional rights, and if the senate passes this it will only show that authoritarianism has finally taken over Atlasia.

Note for the easily swayed: he considers the minimum wage, environmental standards, anti-discrimination laws, and health care coverage to be forms of "authoritarianism."

Indeed, it's also not clear how the assumption of powers by an elected legislative body already held by a different elected legislative body would constitute "authoritarianism".
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2007, 03:58:52 PM »

This is an outrageous interference with regional rights, and if the senate passes this it will only show that authoritarianism has finally taken over Atlasia.

Even if it fails, I think authoritarianism has taken over Atlasia anyway.

Ah, yes, authoritarianism, the catch-all term for things we don't like.
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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2007, 10:58:59 AM »

I'm inclined to say that Section 2 is a useful clarification, and would like to hear why it was originally included before voting to strike it.
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2007, 07:26:29 PM »

Then I vote Nay on the amendment.
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2007, 09:56:13 PM »

As the original author of the Amendment (Bono v. Atlasia back in '05), I suppose I am meant to state why the clause was included.

The Supreme Court of the day (2005) seemed to be very much of the (unofficial) opinion that if the Senate (and the People) passed a Constitutional Amendment that seemed to authorise Laws passed in the past (this Amendment would have, for example, authorised the federal Minimum Wage Laws), then the Constitutional Amendment would require an explicit clause backdating it to previous legislation. This is what Section 2 does.
But we don't have an idiot-dominated SC anymore. Huh

We might again in the future.
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2007, 11:53:15 PM »

Updated Tally on Lewis's Amendment
Aye: 3 (Sam; Brandon; Ebowed)
Nay: 4 (Verily; Earl; Moderate; afleitch)
Yet to Vote: 3 (Lewis; Rob; Sensei)

Just for the record, "Everett" is yet to vote, not "Rob."

Actually, neither is. Everett hasn't sworn herself in as a Senator yet.
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2007, 09:39:31 PM »

Just a reminder that this amendment is still being debated.
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2007, 11:39:22 PM »

Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain on the motion for cloture.

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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2007, 05:33:52 PM »

Result on Motion for Cloture
Aye: 6 (Verily; Ebowed; Friz; Moderate; Sensei; afleitch)
Nay: 0
Abstain [Didn't vote]: 3 (Brandon; Earl; Sam)
Vacant: 1 (Midwest)

With six in favor and 9 Senators present, the motion for cloture carries. We are now voting on the following Amendment to the Constitution:

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Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2007, 05:34:24 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2007, 06:52:48 PM »


You can vote.
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2007, 09:46:12 PM »

Tally on Final Passage
Aye: 5 (Verily; Ebowed; Sensei; SoS; Friz)
Nay: 0
Abstain: 0
Yet to Vote: 5 (afleitch; Brandon; Earl; Moderate; Sam)
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E: 1.81, S: -6.78

« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2007, 04:07:15 PM »

Updated Tally on Final Passage
Aye: 5 (Verily; Ebowed; Sensei; SoS; Friz)
Nay: 1 (Brandon)
Abstain: 0
Yet to Vote: 5 (afleitch; Earl; Moderate; Sam)
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E: 1.81, S: -6.78

« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2007, 10:54:48 PM »

Result on Final Passage
Aye: 8 (Verily; Ebowed; Sensei; SoS; Friz; Moderate; Earl; afleitch)
Nay: 2 (Brandon; Sam)
Abstain: 0

With eight in favor and two opposed, this amendment has passed. It is now presented to the Regions for their consideration.
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