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CTguy
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« on: March 18, 2004, 11:00:58 AM »

Connecticut is less democratic than West Virginia and Louisiana?  Two states that Gore lost, even though Gore won ever single district in Connecticut and over 80% of towns.
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2004, 11:11:28 AM »

Oh ok, I thought we were talking about presidential elections.  
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2004, 11:18:49 AM »

You honestly think Kerry is going to win West Virginia in 2004 though?
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2004, 11:25:31 AM »

Because I think the Republicans are going to play up peoples prejudices and pound him with the reputation of "Northeastern liberal."

I think some on this board have shown that a lot of people in this country have contempt for people from the Northeast... especially New England.  
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2004, 11:49:22 AM »

Joe Lieberman is a disgrace to the democratic party.  He should become a republican already so we can vote him out....

The only reason he won re-election last time is because the Republicans put a CONVICTED CHILD MOLESTOR up to run against him.
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2004, 12:09:16 PM »

Lieberman is a disgrace on many levels.

The most important of which is that he votes with the Republicans too often because of his own political ambitions.  We have known for years here in CT that he wanted to run for President.  

The fact is that Connecticut is one of the most liberal states in the country and we don't elect someone to congress so they can talk about family values.  We want someone who votes our interests.  And he has done NOTHING for the state of Connecticut but vote with religious zealots as if he was representing Alabama.  Not to mention the fact that as a Connecticut Taxpayer I send my money to Washington and little of it comes back to the state.  So what has he done for the state?  Absolutely nothing.  He's not even a good fiscal conservative.  I will not be voting for him the next time he is up for re-election.  I will likely not vote Republican but I am not going to an endorse a religious extremist like him.
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2004, 12:22:22 PM »

By Connecticut standards he is a religious extremist.  I have seen him at rally's and such.  Where I live, we don't like politicians who exploit religion for political gain... as he does at every opportunity.  He also has supported a lot of pro-religion and pro-censorship positions in congress that were very unpopular in Connecticut.  

Again this is by the standards of his electorate.  We are the ones voting him into office, not the United States as a whole.  He should represent our views, not the most moderate views in the country so he can run a national campaign.  While I am not thrilled with Kerry, at least he didn't have a fake voting record to run for President the way Lieberman has had his entire political career.  
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2004, 01:26:50 PM »

He mentions god all the time and exploits it for political purposes.  I don't have a problem with politicians who mention God, I don't care one way or another, but he has been highly supportive of initiatives the religious right have started.  He also has a highly mobilized Jewish base in Central Connecticut and he goes after issues that don't represent the majority of voters in this state, especially not democratic voters who voted him into office.

Like I said before, if the Republican party in CT wasn't such a joke that the best candidate they could run was a CONVICTED CHILD MOLESTOR then he wouldn't even be in the senate.  

I think in 2006 we will get him out of office in a primary and then maybe we can have someone who actually represents the people of this state.
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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2004, 01:40:55 PM »

I'm sure for segregationists, who are now in their 60's and 70's, I am an ultra-liberal extremist too.  But for most people with a college education or higher I would probably be considered a moderate; and I value their opinion much more :-)
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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2004, 02:11:32 PM »

It had been trending liberal even then in response to the South trending republican.  And lets remember, the only reason Republicans get any votes in Connecticut (even Reagan) is because Connecticut is the richest state in the nation and people are greedy and want tax cuts.  If it wasn't for that issue, Republicans wouldn't even get 10% of the vote in CT.
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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2004, 02:26:21 PM »

CT is no longer dominated by industries like that.  The insurance companies have bigger lobbies...  If you look at the map of CT, the only area in the state where Republicans have any strength is where I live, in the southwestern region that is mainly NYC suburbs that has a lot of people who pay a lot of taxes.  If you take away this region, Gore would have won CT by 40 points or more.
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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2004, 03:44:18 PM »

Unaffiliated, almost always vote by the ratio that democrats/republicans do.  Meaning if there are twice as many democrats as republicans, unaffiliated voters will vote democratic 2 to 1.  CT is no different.  The majority of unaffiliated voters go to democrats.

I mean, look at that, only 22% of voters are registered republican.  It used to be much more...  that number has been steadily decreasing and will continue to as the republicans nationally move further with their conservative agenda.
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« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2004, 04:15:58 PM »

I don't think when some of them try and get evolution out of the classroom or ban being gay or ban abortion that they are simply standing in place.  

They want us to think that they merely want to slow social progress but their plan is much more devious than that.  What they really want is to outlaw freedom of religion and implement christianity as the national religion of this country.  They will also stop at nothing to achieve this goal.  
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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2004, 12:41:57 AM »

Hey, if you read the other topic before going on your pedantic little rant you'd see right-wing fanatics like you *have* in fact tried to ban being gay.  So, no I didn't "make that up," expand your mind and read it for yourself...  

And next time you call someone delusional, learn how to spell the word...  or else it makes you sound... well, delusional.
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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2004, 03:06:00 PM »

I am the one who is talking about issues outside of my state.  You are the one merely making personal attacks when you can't defend the things your party is up to.
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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2004, 03:48:31 PM »

Funny how super has everyone feeling sorry for him, if you re-read the posts, he started with the personal attacks.  I merely told him if he's going to call me delusional, he should at least learn how to spell the word so he doesn't sound like a moron.
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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2004, 03:51:54 PM »

Please don't, I really don't feel like having biggots respond to my posts.  It is a waste of my time.
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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2004, 04:01:12 PM »

My post was no-where near delusional..

But it's funny how I have been personally attacked repeatedly for being a New Englander...  The last time I checked most of the social problems in this country have originated from the South, yet if you say something against Southerners then you are a New England elitist.  
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« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2004, 09:10:29 PM »

Because I think the Republicans are going to play up peoples prejudices and pound him with the reputation of "Northeastern liberal."

I think some on this board have shown that a lot of people in this country have contempt for people from the Northeast... especially New England.  

Even though I grew up in the South, I find it ridiculous when Southerners attack people for being from the Northeast. Let's just hope that these people would have voted for Bush regardless.


My post was no-where near delusional..

But it's funny how I have been personally attacked repeatedly for being a New Englander...  The last time I checked most of the social problems in this country have originated from the South, yet if you say something against Southerners then you are a New England elitist.  

It is very true that most social problems (racism, sexism, homophobia, low education, high crime rate, etc.) are worse in the South. In high school, I did a project on SAT scores in N.C.. The only school systems that had decent SAT scores were places with a lot of Northern migrants. I live in a cosmopolitan part of N.C. and I must admit I feel very awkward in non-metro N.C.--you'll find much more tobacco and gun shops than Thai restaurants or Jewish synagogues.

Note: I'm not saying all Southerners should be looked down upon. I'm just saying that posts from Northeastern members of this forum (about the South) have been quite reasonable.

Thank you for that honest and frank post nclib.  It's about time somebody said that.
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« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2004, 09:11:58 PM »

My post was no-where near delusional..

But it's funny how I have been personally attacked repeatedly for being a New Englander...  The last time I checked most of the social problems in this country have originated from the South, yet if you say something against Southerners then you are a New England elitist.  

I agree with you on a lot of things, but if you allow yourself to resort to the same kind of argumentative technique you won't get a lot of respect. And all conspiracy-theories are delusional.

That's so ridiculous Gustaf I don't know where to begin.  All conspiracy theories are delusional?  In other words conspiracies don't exist.  If law enforcement thought the way you do half the mob would still be out on the streets.  What about watergate...  give me a break...  you take your pacifist nonsense too far.
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« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2004, 09:29:26 PM »

The fact is many people think Rowland and Lieberman have cut a deal to keep their seats since they are both pretty crappy and unpopular within their own parties.  

Lieberman is only popular because his pro-religion stands attract many republicans.  But I say, lets have a primary and see where the chips fall.  Democrats will realize he is far too conservative for Connecticut and choose someone else.  It's not like we need to worry about running centrists, Al Sharpton could win as a democrat in this state.
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