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Fmr President & Senator Polnut
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« Reply #175 on: March 20, 2013, 06:05:33 PM »

Simon Crean was VERY honest in his media conference that just ended.

Basically he said the media games and deliberate destabilisation needs to stop and threw his lot in with Gillard.
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« Reply #176 on: March 20, 2013, 06:22:00 PM »

Simon Crean was VERY honest in his media conference that just ended.

Basically he said the media games and deliberate destabilisation needs to stop and threw his lot in with Gillard.

But his position has always been that he supports the incumbent. Hardly news.

Interestingly, when asked why he isn't being considered in the mix... his answer "I don't have the numbers"...

It is very strange for such a senior minister to not only discuss internal matters but go after their colleagues in public.
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« Reply #177 on: March 20, 2013, 09:06:23 PM »

Something had to give... it's surprising HOW it happened, but not shocking that it has.
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« Reply #178 on: March 20, 2013, 09:29:53 PM »

Gillard's firewall is the VIC membership, Crean's move has cracked it.

The Right faction installed her... and they might bring her down.
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« Reply #179 on: March 20, 2013, 09:43:34 PM »

I just drove past the Lodge, the protective services car is outside - which means she's there. Somewhat unusual.
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« Reply #180 on: March 20, 2013, 10:37:32 PM »

It was a disgusting display from Julie Bishop....
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« Reply #181 on: March 20, 2013, 11:01:29 PM »

Crean's been sacked. Elliott backing Rudd.

Has that been confirmed?
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« Reply #182 on: March 20, 2013, 11:36:50 PM »

Any Rudd win will be probably narrow... but Gillard needs to win relatively comfortably...
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« Reply #183 on: March 21, 2013, 01:08:45 AM »

Peter Hartcher just made a very important point... all of those people who stuck their neck out on Rudd's behalf and worked for him, to not even try for a ballot... it probably wrecks his credibility.
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« Reply #184 on: March 21, 2013, 06:55:43 AM »

She called Rudd's bluff... she knew he didn't have the majority... I'm told that Rudd never got above 45-46... but that numbers dropped BACK after Gillard's Question Time performance.

My view was that a very tight Gillard win would have been as bad as a loss... her position would have been untenable and she would have had to have gone. By Simon Crean's suicide move and Gillard's quick thinking, she forced the situation to head and made sure her numbers did not have to be tested.

It days like today that I love Gillard... others... eh

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« Reply #185 on: March 21, 2013, 08:50:46 PM »

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/rudd-ends-speculation-of-another-tilt-20130322-2gjn6.html

Rudd makes it as clear as possible...

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« Reply #186 on: March 21, 2013, 09:19:15 PM »

As I mentioned, I find it strange the Coalition is trying to call again for an early election... you'd think if they were so sure Gillard was political dead-woman walking... you'd want to keep her on for as long as possible.

I don't think they want to risk a more secure and stable Gillard being able to get traction... There's no way a no-confidence motion passes... so the election will be in September, and you get the feeling the Coalition doesn't want that.
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« Reply #187 on: March 21, 2013, 10:05:19 PM »

Abbott's been calling for an election since the last one. Nothing new there. Budget session will be the last sitting of this Parliament, right?

Actually, Abbott has been remarkably quiet on the new election. I haven't heard him say it for months... yes, Morden is right, it's about avoiding any possible come back. I'm beginning to change my view that they're doomed. I still think they're significant underdogs... much weirder things have happened.

I believe the last sitting day would be 27 June.
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« Reply #188 on: March 24, 2013, 04:49:53 PM »

Gillard blasts a certain foghorn and gets Hanson's visa policy endorsement, plus a potential Hanson candidacy, as a result. Let's see her explain this one when immigration comes up in the GE debates.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/visa-campaign-exposes-hypocrisy-in-pms-office-20130317-2g8m0.html

There will only be one debate... and Abbott can't really attack this.
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« Reply #189 on: March 24, 2013, 09:24:00 PM »

Well Combet was already Climate Change, in fact, the single biggest change is the merging of the Department of Climate Change and Energy Efficiency with elements from another department, to become the Department of Industry, Innovation, Climate Change and Energy Efficiency.
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« Reply #190 on: March 25, 2013, 01:06:10 AM »

What are the chances of Tony Abbott becoming the next Prime Minister? I remember some time back that Gillard had lambasted him for being a misogynist and his party fell in the polls...

He will almost certainly be the next Prime Minister barring a complete reversal of political fortunes.

I would say it's a 80% chance he's PM on September 15... but he's only as strong as Gillard is weak. If Gillard somehow manages to regain some position, watching her press conference today... if we see that Gillard mixed with the Gillard from last Thursday... things could change.

I'm not saying this as someone who wants Gillard to win, although I do. People need to understand that Abbott's position is not an endorsement of HIM, but about issues with Gillard and the Government. Plus Abbott is not popular, and I don't see that changing... so that's the opening.

More playing devil's advocate than anything else, but just warning against making assumptions about Australian politics in an election year.
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« Reply #191 on: March 25, 2013, 07:31:07 AM »

I mean, if this poll wasn't a train-wreck, I'm pretty sure everyone would wonder what was wrong with Newspoll.

The one thing you could be certain of was that this poll, after 2 pretty terrible weeks, was going to be as terrible.
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« Reply #192 on: March 25, 2013, 09:36:57 PM »

Virtually no chance of a Senate Majority... the nature of PR makes it very difficult.
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« Reply #193 on: March 27, 2013, 05:28:28 PM »


Kelty is a bit like Richardson... has-beens with a need for attention.
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« Reply #194 on: March 27, 2013, 05:41:12 PM »

In other news, Gillard specifically endorsed Prince Charles as the next Commonwealth head.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21952895

Well... that's not too surprising...
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« Reply #195 on: April 08, 2013, 08:13:28 AM »

Newspoll

Primary
ALP: 32% (+2)
Coalition: 48% (-2)
Greens: 11% (+1)

TPP
ALP: 45% (+3)
Coalition: 55% (-3)

Abbott remains preferred PM... not sure about the numbers.
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« Reply #196 on: April 09, 2013, 01:12:40 AM »

Newspoll

Primary
ALP: 32% (+2)
Coalition: 48% (-2)
Greens: 11% (+1)

TPP
ALP: 45% (+3)
Coalition: 55% (-3)

Abbott remains preferred PM... not sure about the numbers.

All within margin of error from previous poll, but I think this one is closer to reality than it was.

58-42 was was probably as bad as it will get. I expect a tightening, simply by virtue of the fact it's an election year and polling (rarely) stays the same.
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« Reply #197 on: April 14, 2013, 10:49:40 PM »

Bit weird... but eh. The polls will be strange all year.
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« Reply #198 on: April 20, 2013, 06:41:55 PM »

Yeah, the last Liberal Prime Minister who actually governed in the spirit of the party ... Abbott could learn a hell of a lot.
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« Reply #199 on: May 08, 2013, 08:45:08 PM »

Brilliant employment report... over 50,000 jobs created in April, participation rate up and unemployment down to 5.5%...
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