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Fmr President & Senator Polnut
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« on: September 05, 2006, 02:49:50 PM »

1. Woman living in poverty steals a loaf of bread to feed her family - Community service

2. Robbing a bank - 12-15yrs

3. Vehicular manslaughter (unintentional) - agree w/Mantis the circumstance need to be much more precise - if there was some serious lapse in judgement - then min 7 years.

4. Vehicular manslaughter (UI) - min 14yrs

5. Possession of child pornography - registration on sex offenders page - prison terms dependent on volume and whether customer or distributor - min 6 months - for mass producers 10yrs min.

6. Possession of one ounce of marijuana - Warning - fine.

7. 1st Degree Rape - Life

8. 1st Degree Murder - Life without Parole... in cell where they can see how nice the outside world is.

9. Possession of illegal firearms - 2 yrs min (dependent on quantity max 10yrs)

10. We need a more modern definition of what would constitute this crime but would not under any other laws - ie Terror, Assassinations etc etc. I think it's an old-world law. Mostly it stays on the books for posterity... and in case of some extreme scenario.
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Fmr President & Senator Polnut
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E: -2.71, S: -5.22

« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2006, 07:44:06 PM »


DUI should be a felony, and a homocide that results from a felony should receive the death penalty,

Isn't the point of the death penalty for punishment when no deterrent is possible?

Even if it legally adds up, doesn't it seem unnecessary?

I consider the mens rea element of murder incredibly important - obviously there is constructive murder (which is what Ernest is suggesting) - however that is usually for crimes like armed robbery. A DUI would never qualify.
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Fmr President & Senator Polnut
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2006, 10:37:47 PM »

I have serious objections to the death penalty in the first place - however - to give to someone who did not INTENTIONALLY act to kill a person makes me very very nervous.

There's a case of a truck driver in Australia who was thrown out of a bar, he lost his temper... but still pissed as a fart, he got in his rig and drove it straight into the Bar. Killing one person. That was considered to be a reckless act, since he didn't actual intend to kill someone - he just didn't care if his actions did.

I think someone who has a few too many a get behind a wheel reaches that level - I gave the 14years as a minimum.
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