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Question: Should circumcision also be forbidden in the US?
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I say YES to religious freedom.
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I say NO to genital mutilation.
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Fmr President & Senator Polnut
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« on: July 15, 2012, 07:11:14 AM »

I understand the religious and cultural beliefs of people, but I don't believe any person (let alone a baby) should have their body surgically modified without their consent.

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Fmr President & Senator Polnut
polnut
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2012, 03:44:38 AM »

You have to look at the impacts of a circumcision ban; you make it essentially impossible for Jews and Muslims to continue their religious life in a place where such a ban exists. I think the Jews are in an even greater jeopardy in such a scenario because the circumcision of a Jewish boy has to be carried out very early, which makes it very difficult for a Jewish family to look for safe ways to have their boy circumcised (e.g. find a doctor in another country where circumcision is legal). Muslim families might have more leeway because they usually have a lot more time to plan the circumcision of their son.

Discussing theories of "bodily integrity" and taking very libertarian stances on the issue on an internet forum is all well and good, but you have to think of the very practical effects of such a ban especially when it comes to Jews and the long-term survival of Judaism in the Western world. 

I know a few reform Jews who do not intend to circumcise if they have sons. I raised that similar point, as someone who has Jewish heritage and cares about it, despite being opposed to infant circumcision... their response was "being Jewish is far more than being circumcised".
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Fmr President & Senator Polnut
polnut
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Posts: 19,489
Australia


Political Matrix
E: -2.71, S: -5.22

« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2012, 08:02:50 PM »

I do find the suggestions of the uncircumcised that my penis is somehow horribly disfigured at least a little bit offensive.

No one said that.

and the comments that cut Americans make about the uncut penis "it's dirty" "it's gross" "it looks weird"... are a little offensive too.

But neither of these sentiments have been expressed here... so let's not get into hyper-emotion here.

Again, I don't think there's a problem with BEING circumcised... I do have a problem with it happening to babies who cannot grant consent.
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