2008 swing states

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I love the declarations of the loss of Ohio despite no evidence to suggest it. lol

Ohio will be close, regardless.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

It's been trending lean Dem for a while.

That was confusing, I meant Obama. I think that Obama has traded Ohio for Virginia by endorsing gay marriage though, making it a lot harder for Romney to win VA to get the coveted 270. He'll probably have to look elsewhere, WI or PA. Probably not WI unless Walker wins by more than +5 margin.

VA voted against gay marriage in 2006 (I believe it was.) Romney will win WI if Walker wins by +5, I agree, and he'll only win PA if unemployment goes above 9.3-9.5% again.

You see... the Walker/Romney thing are related, but not closely.

The other thing that always s***s me to tears is people taking one vote, and extrapolating a conclusion about another... you need to consider, yes, they might not like gay marriage but HOW much do they care?

It's oft forgotten element...

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

It's been trending lean Dem for a while.

That was confusing, I meant Obama. I think that Obama has traded Ohio for Virginia by endorsing gay marriage though, making it a lot harder for Romney to win VA to get the coveted 270. He'll probably have to look elsewhere, WI or PA. Probably not WI unless Walker wins by more than +5 margin.

VA voted against gay marriage in 2006 (I believe it was.) Romney will win WI if Walker wins by +5, I agree, and he'll only win PA if unemployment goes above 9.3-9.5% again.

You see... the Walker/Romney thing are related, but not closely.

The other thing that always s***s me to tears is people taking one vote, and extrapolating a conclusion about another... you need to consider, yes, they might not like gay marriage but HOW much do they care?

It's oft forgotten element...

True, but those who remember it frequently overrate it...tuned-in political junkies sometimes forget that an unenthusiastic 'meh-he's-the-least-bad-of-this-lot' vote counts just as much as a 'FUKK YEAH!' vote. On that level, enthusiasm and how much you care don't matter one bit.

I agree, but what I mean is not enthusiasm to VOTE, but how much that one issue will counter other issues to affect how they vote.