Warner for Senate '08 vs. ReaganRepublican Debate

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One week from this Friday there will be a debate between Warner for Senate '08 and ReaganRepublican in this part of the thread.

Expect talk about the question of being hackish and the politics of the two of us.

Have your questions ready.

[GPORTER]

What factors contributed most to the fall of the Soviet Union?

What was the net effect of Stalinism?

Answer each question with a thoughtful paragraph.

[GPORTER]

What factors contributed most to the fall of the Soviet Union?

What was the net effect of Stalinism?

Answer each question with a thoughtful paragraph.

My friends. First thank you for posting your questions. I am sorry that I have not been here lately, I have been busy.

On the fall of the soviet union. I have been criticized because people thought that I indicated that Reagan ended the Cold War himself. This is not true, and I do not fully understand why many of you believe that this is what I said.

Let me say and mark my words, Reagan did not end the cold war alone. But, he was a big part of it. All of the Presidents from Truman through George Bush sr. helped to end the Cold War.

But, Reagan was the only President, not including George Bush sr, who could succfessfully negoiate with the soviet leader. Only one meeting between Gorbachev and Reagan went wrong. In 1986, in Iceland, when Gorbachev broke the SDI or "Star Wars,". However, they were still able to come together after that. Reagan was the one to tell Gorbachev, "tear down this wall." Kennedy, a democrat, endorsed the idea of it going up. He endorsed the idea of separating the people of Berlin, One on one side of the wall, one on the other.

Which would you like more, Reagan, a man who wanted the wall torn down to end a great evil, The Cold War, or Kennedy, who endorsed the idea of dividing the people by having a wall separating the one group of people from the other. Kennedy chose to continue the great evil, when he could have made it come to an end. Reagan chose the better side and let a great evil come to an end.

Which party would you rather have leading the people of America, one who purposely chooses to divide the people and continue a great evil, Kennedy, or a party who brings the people together and wants everyone to be equal and works to end a great evil, Reagan. If you are thinking straight, then I know that you would chose the latter.

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Gporter,

Why do you like Ronald Reagan? Do you know that he did the following during his Presidency?

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Secondly who would you have supported in the 1972 Presidential Election? Nixon or McGovern?


Now a question both Gporter and Ben. If you were Governor-General Sir John Kerr on November 11, 1975 would you have dismissed Gough Whitlam's Labor Government? Explain your decision in a paragraph. Not to mention, hadn't Whitlam have been dismissed what consequences do you believe this would have had on Australia?

Also explain to me why you believe that Kevin Michael Rudd is a freedom fighter.

I will only be answering Rocky's question in this post.


You point out all of the wrong that Reagan did. Do not all presidents do something wrong. I bet you would not pick out the bad about Franklin Roosevelt, or Bill Clinton, or John F. Kennedy, and others.

Reagan worked a great deal to end the Cold War, he gave the economy a big comeback, and he worked well in foreign affairs for the most part. The downside to that is the Iran Contra Affair. Which, in my opinion, was not really his fault. It was his staff who got the administration involved in it, not Reagan himself. Reagan should not be blamed for all that went on during the Iran Contra Scandal, yes he can be blamed for some of it, but not all of it. As many of you have often blamed him for all of it.

To answer Rocky's question specifically, yes I know what went wrong in his presidency, I have read dozens of books on every President. I understand all that went both right and wrong in each presidency. Everyoen has there problems. I do not want to minchen names and I will not, but some ideas for knowing what others have done wrong,

"failure to pass promised health care for all americans." (Bill Clinton)
"having sex in the white house and lying about it on national telivision."(Bill Clinton)
"knowing about the nazi camps, but doing nothing about it." (Franklin Roosevelt)
"lying about a break in to the american people." (Richard Nixon)

I am sorry, I did minchen names, but oh well. But, you get my point. Every President has had its good times and its bad. No one was perfect.

Reagan was not perfect. But, what he did shaped America and the world for the coming years.

On the question about the 1972 election, I would not have had voted.

Nixon is the only republican president who I would not vote for.

McGovern does not float my boat. Though some democrats, such as Hubert Humphrey and Lyndon Johnson, do go over well with me.

I hope that this has answered the question.

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Would both of you describe an instance of any presidents beside Reagan or Bush Sr. using communications to deal with a Soviet Threat.

John Kennedy negoiated with the soviet leader at that time in the Cuban Missel Crisis.

Though, had Kennedy had stronger leadership, he would not have had to negoiate with the leader and risk a nuclear war.

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Nixon is the only republican president who I would not vote for.

Interesting, he was the only one since Eisenhower I would have voted for.

Well, you are a democrat. I am a republican. That explains something.

Maybe you would have voted for Nixon, because he was harsh and mean and full of unkind words for others like you.

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Nixon is the only republican president who I would not vote for.

Interesting, he was the only one since Eisenhower I would have voted for.

Well, you are a democrat. I am a republican. That explains something.

Maybe you would have voted for Nixon, because he was harsh and mean and full of unkind words for others like you.

Mean guys are usually the ones who get things done in the White House and get them done right(Nixon, Clinton)

Others have gotten things done.

Reagan-improving the economy from the Carter years.
Johnson-using the War on Poverty and cutting poverty by half.
Eisenhower-prposing the federal highway act and getting it passed.

There are others.

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Nixon is the only republican president who I would not vote for.

Interesting, he was the only one since Eisenhower I would have voted for.

Well, you are a democrat. I am a republican. That explains something.

Maybe you would have voted for Nixon, because he was harsh and mean and full of unkind words for others like you.

Mean guys are usually the ones who get things done in the White House and get them done right(Nixon, Clinton)

Others have gotten things done.

Reagan-improving the economy from the Carter years.
Johnson-using the War on Poverty and cutting poverty by half.
Eisenhower-prposing the federal highway act and getting it passed.

There are others.

Lyndon Johnson was a mean son of a bitch-- you would know that if you had read any books about him.

You are too young, in my opinion, and I am sure in your parent's opinion if they heard you say that, to be using that language.

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Well this is an interesting "debate" don't you folks all agree?

I have some more questions on the way, but before I ask them I'd like Mr. Porter to answer my questions on Gerry Adams, why you are a Republican, your views on Affirmative Action and my questions about Gough Whitlam and Kevin Rudd. If you could do that I would be very thankful.

Now my questions to both Mr. Constine and Mr. Porter:

1) Do you believe that the United States supports Israel is so they can have a "51st State" in the Middle East?

2) What is your opinion of one another?

3) What is your opinion of the Religious Right? Do you believe they have too much influence in American Politics in this day and age or do they have too little?

Thanks.

I do not believe that Israel should be considered as another state. it is just like anyother state that we support, we work together with them in times of need for either our country or their country. That is the way that it should be.

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Well this is an interesting "debate" don't you folks all agree?

I have some more questions on the way, but before I ask them I'd like Mr. Porter to answer my questions on Gerry Adams, why you are a Republican, your views on Affirmative Action and my questions about Gough Whitlam and Kevin Rudd. If you could do that I would be very thankful.

Now my questions to both Mr. Constine and Mr. Porter:

1) Do you believe that the United States supports Israel is so they can have a "51st State" in the Middle East?

2) What is your opinion of one another?

3) What is your opinion of the Religious Right? Do you believe they have too much influence in American Politics in this day and age or do they have too little?

Thanks.

I do not believe that Israel should be considered as another state. it is just like anyother state that we support, we work together with them in times of need for either our country or their country. That is the way that it should be.

May you please answer the next two questions please Mr. Porter.

To answer your second question. I respect all people, and as a result, I respect Warner for Senate. However, I do not have very friendly thoughts about Warner. I believe that he, as other members on this forum, are too harsh and too mean towards others. I think that Wanrer thinks that he is older than he really is. I believe that he is imature and I would not be surprised if he is a democrat only because his parents are. Mine are independents, but I chose myself when I began studying politics in Summer of 2005 that I would be a republican.

Warner says that he has studied politics since he was five years old. I find that hard to believe, and in fact I do not think that this is true, most children are just learning how to tie their shoes when they are five years old.

To tie all of this up, I think that Warner choses not to tell the truth on some things just to make himself look good. I find him to be too partisan, and like others willing to attack people without even understanding the material that they are attacking. They just pick people to attack and attack those people no matter what.


On your third and final question, I am partly a part of the religious right.

I believe that the religious right can bring good leadership to the american people. Ronald reagan began this and George H. W. Bush did his best to continue it. But, then Bill Clinton ruined it.

I believe that the religious right care about the american people and do not do just what is popular (Clinton) but do what is right for the american people.

Please feel free to comment on these responses that I have given to these questions. Thank you.

[GPORTER]

You consider Bill Clinton part of the religious right?

Oh, and:

1) Explain why Alsace and Bretagne voted in favour of the EU constitution in 2005 and relate that to the strength of the MRP in those regions.

2) What is the common name used to refer to the area around Paris that elects/elected PCF deputies?

3) Is Georges Marchais funny?

Add to that...

4) Is Georges Marchais the cause of the world's problems today?

Gporter please answer these questions. If you do so, I will spread the word that you are a very intelligent person.

Mr. Porter, don't forget my questions. I'm impatient for your great answer

I did not say that he was part of the religious right, of course he was not. Clinton ruined the leadership of the religious right. That is what I said.

And, I, like Warner for Senate, do nto have the intellengence on those issues that you ask about to give a strong answer to.

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What do you think of Ronald Reagan's many attempts at assisting dicatorial regimes over freely elected democracies or the will of the people?(These include Iraq as well as the Contras and many others.)

Reagan had nothing to do with that.

I do not know what others you speak of. Maybe you are just making them up to make Reagan look bad. I think that is what you are doing. But, maybe not.

Reagan knew nothing about the Iran Contra, that was was certain membes of his staff.

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Name one president and one current leader from the opposite party that you like and why.

I like Lyndon Johnson. I believe that he was treated very badly and very unfairly during the Vietnam War. I think that he was willing to end the war, but that Ho Chi Min would not work with him. Johnson tried to do alot. But, the war dominated his presidency. He brought the country together well after JFK was assassinated. He cut the amount of poverty in the country by half. Basically, I feel sorry for Johnson and I respect him very much.

A current leader from the opposite party. That is difficult, but I am going to say Barack Obama. I believe that he offers the country change. But, I think that the question is, can he offer the right kind of change. I believe that he cannot. He will talk about change, perhaps be the next President of the United States, but once he gets into office, nothing will probably happen. But, I respect Obama for the message and the hope that he gives to his party.

[GPORTER]

What do you think of Ronald Reagan's many attempts at assisting dicatorial regimes over freely elected democracies or the will of the people?(These include Iraq as well as the Contras and many others.)

Reagan had nothing to do with that.

I do not know what others you speak of. Maybe you are just making them up to make Reagan look bad. I think that is what you are doing. But, maybe not.

Reagan knew nothing about the Iran Contra, that was was certain membes of his staff.

The Right has influenced you haven't they Mr. Porter? And are you sure that Reagan had nothing to do with it?

It is not that the right has influenced me Rocky, I am part of the right and am proud of it.

No, I am not sure that Reagan had nothing to do with it. But, from what the books show and what the polls show, and what the many information that I have read since May of 2005, Reagan had nothing significant to do with it.

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Do your parents know that your on this political forum? What do they think about it?

Yes, my parents are very well aware that I am on this political forum. They are fine with it.

I look forward to hearing Warner for Senate answer this question.

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Do your parents know that your on this political forum? What do they think about it?

Yes, my parents are very well aware that I am on this political forum. They are fine with it.

I look forward to hearing Warner for Senate answer this question.

If you were Portuguese, would you vote for the Social Democratic Party? This is a  very important question.

It would depend on how conservative this party was on other issues.

[GPORTER]

I am proud to say that I am sixteen years old. Older than both Rocky and Warner for the Senate.

[GPORTER]

I am proud to say that I am sixteen years old. Older than both Rocky and Warner for the Senate.

And I announce to the world that I am Gay. I am quite happy today.

Stop maing fun of me.