NJ: Fairleigh Dickinson University: Obama leads McCain by 16

[DownWithTheLeft]

They also have Lautenberg up 17 on Zimmer, both poll results are trash

[DownWithTheLeft]

They also have Lautenberg up 17 on Zimmer, both poll results are trash

Sure they are trash, but I think they are only a few points off from what it is really.

The poll said about 50% of the people never heard of Zimmer.  Right now at this moment I'd say McCain and Zimmer are both down about 10%.  In early September they will both be up about 5, and then in the end it will be an election decided by no more than 5 points either way.

[DownWithTheLeft]

They also have Lautenberg up 17 on Zimmer, both poll results are trash

Sure they are trash, but I think they are only a few points off from what it is really.

The poll said about 50% of the people never heard of Zimmer.  Right now at this moment I'd say McCain and Zimmer are both down about 10%.  In early September they will both be up about 5, and then in the end it will be an election decided by no more than 5 points either way.

are you on a permanent high?

Why would this election be any different than other NJ election?

[DownWithTheLeft]

They also have Lautenberg up 17 on Zimmer, both poll results are trash

Sure they are trash, but I think they are only a few points off from what it is really.

The poll said about 50% of the people never heard of Zimmer.  Right now at this moment I'd say McCain and Zimmer are both down about 10%.  In early September they will both be up about 5, and then in the end it will be an election decided by no more than 5 points either way.

are you on a permanent high?

Why would this election be any different than other NJ election?

O.K.

Let's have a little bet. I'll wager that Obama will never be down in three straight polls from NJ in a row from now to election day.

Three straight polls from what?  I mean in September 2006 Kean led in SUSA, Rasmussen, FDU, and Mommouth but trailed in Rutgers-Eagleton.  I guarantee you that three polls will come out in a relative short amount of time sometime this election season that will show McCain ahead.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Which would leave pretty much Rasmussen, Strategic Vision (which is sort of a partisan poll), SUSA, and Mason-Dixon.  At least 3 of those will show a McCain lead at some point

[DownWithTheLeft]

Which would leave pretty much Rasmussen, Strategic Vision (which is sort of a partisan poll), SUSA, and Mason-Dixon.  At least 3 of those will show a McCain lead at some point

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If you really believe that you are stupid, sorry to say but you are.

LOL this coming from Mr. NC is Dem I'm 80% sure!!!
At least NJ has a history of polling like this

[DownWithTheLeft]

Which would leave pretty much Rasmussen, Strategic Vision (which is sort of a partisan poll), SUSA, and Mason-Dixon.  At least 3 of those will show a McCain lead at some point

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If you really believe that you are stupid, sorry to say but you are.

LOL this coming from Mr. NC is Dem I'm 80% sure!!!
At least NJ has a history of polling like this

McCain only had the lead in NJ during March is because of the split in the Democratic party over Obama and Clinton. In NC blacks will make up 23% of the voters, Obama winning them around 94%, and getting 34% of the white vote.. he will win by 1 or 2 percent.

So, because I think McCain will lead some polls in NJ I am stupid, than under your logic what does that make someone who believes w/80% certainy that Obama will win a state that 99% of the forum thinks he will lose?

[DownWithTheLeft]

Well, Josh, hard to be wrong when you predict every possible outcome I guess

[DownWithTheLeft]

Well, Josh, hard to be wrong when you predict every possible outcome I guess

Look at your Prediction map and look at my prediction map... who's is closer to the real out come?

I don't know, what is this "real one" you refer to?  Last time I checked the the VP candidates hadn't even been chosen and the election is still over 4 months away

[DownWithTheLeft]

BTW Josh, we have 4 states different, all considered swing states (CO, NH, PA, MI)

[DownWithTheLeft]

BTW Josh, we have 4 states different, all considered swing states (CO, NH, PA, MI)

You have all of the Mid-west, besides IL as toss-up. You have WA as a toss-up and you have CA as lean Obama. You have NC strong McCain and VA and MO as lean McCain... I guess you don't look at polls.

Damn you owned me there!!!  I'm sorry I base my thoughts on logic rather than summer uni polls.  And if you read my prediction, I said Washington was an oversight.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Are you two done with your bitch-fest yet?

Nah, watching Josh say ridiculous things is too funny

[DownWithTheLeft]

BTW Josh, we have 4 states different, all considered swing states (CO, NH, PA, MI)

You have all of the Mid-west, besides IL as toss-up. You have WA as a toss-up and you have CA as lean Obama. You have NC strong McCain and VA and MO as lean McCain... I guess you don't look at polls.

Damn you owned me there!!!  I'm sorry I base my thoughts on logic rather than summer uni polls.  And if you read my prediction, I said Washington was an oversight.

No you base it off of hackish dreams. My map is based on on trends. But we will see in Nov when McCain gets crushed by Obama.

Four states Josh, four states considered by everyone to be swing states