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DownWithTheLeft
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« on: April 28, 2008, 07:04:47 PM »

Go Andrews!  Obviously the Democrats will win so maybe fresh blood would be nice
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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2008, 05:54:12 PM »

I highly doubt that was ruined the train-wreck known as Andy Unuanue, however, this could be an issue for Lautenberg.  NY really has 3 senators, this man has no interest in NJ or its people, I bet he couldn't find his way around the state.
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2008, 09:22:49 AM »

BUMP

Little over a week left, I really have no idea how this race is going to turn out.  I would assume Zimmer wins for the Republicans.  As far as the Dems, does anyone have any knowledge, trends or polls or something?  I really hope Andrews pulls it out.

Here's the real shocker:  In a Zimmers/Andrews race I would be supporting Andrews
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2008, 08:40:08 PM »

Watched the Republican senate debate, confirmed my belief that Dick Zimmer is trash.  Not only is he incredibly liberal, he blinks ever two seconds and has no public speaking ability.  Pennachio is a fool and talks like Elmer Fudd.  Sabrin was the only one who made sense or had any speaking ability.  He had a great comeback when Pennachio talked about winning 6 elections in a row, saying that it was like winning in the Soviet Union
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2008, 08:16:40 AM »

I am officially predicting a Pennachio/Andrews race.  Tough decision for me
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2008, 09:18:22 PM »

I have seen some Andrews ads in the NYC market over the past couple of days.  That's all I can add.

The real question here is:  Who does the Mafia want to win?
Well, Lautenberg does not have an Italian ring to it, I'd say Pennachio
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2008, 09:20:23 PM »

I have seen some Andrews ads in the NYC market over the past couple of days.  That's all I can add.

The real question here is:  Who does the Mafia want to win?
Well, Lautenberg does not have an Italian ring to it, I'd say Pennachio

That doesn't matter much to the Mafia when it comes to business. If we want to use stereotypes, the Mafia works with Jews.
True, Sabrin has a shot after all!
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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2008, 08:12:30 PM »

The more I think about it, I know nothing about Bob Andrews.  But the fact that he is not Frank Lautenberg and not from Northern New Jersey makes him awesome
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2008, 10:16:32 AM »

My final prediction going into the primary:

Republicans
State Sen. Joe Pennachio 46%
Fmr. Rep. Dick Zimmer 43%
Dr. Murray Sabrin 11%

Democrats
Rep. Bob Andrews 48%
Sen. Frank Lautenberg 47%
Mayor Donald Cresitello 5%
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2008, 12:07:28 PM »

I find it really amusing that you actually think Andrews will win. Then again, maybe it shouldn't be surprising; we see projections of desires from you all the time.
I never denied I make predictions based on desires often, but there is really no polling out for this race other than those that suggest Lautenberg has low approvals.  If Andrews can make a dent in Bergen and/or Hudson, he has more than a 50/50 shot
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2008, 12:17:19 PM »

I find it really amusing that you actually think Andrews will win. Then again, maybe it shouldn't be surprising; we see projections of desires from you all the time.
I never denied I make predictions based on desires often, but there is really no polling out for this race other than those that suggest Lautenberg has low approvals.  If Andrews can make a dent in Bergen and/or Hudson, he has more than a 50/50 shot

There were a few polls showing Lautenberg around 40-45% and Andrews around 15-20% (and Cresitello around 5-10%). Anyway, local evidence suggests Andrews is going to get beaten to a pulp here; there are no Andrews signs but tons of Lautenberg signs (usually in tandem with various other local officials being challenged in the primaries). Actually, that last could hurt Lautenberg as he's heavily tied his horse to the Ferriero candidates in Bergen County, but I think it's somewhat unlikely.

It'll be interesting to see which column Andrews is on in the sample ballots. Column 3 would definitely be a big boost...
I received the sample ballot, he's listed by his lonesome in Column 1
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E: 9.16, S: -3.13

« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2008, 12:26:19 PM »

I find it really amusing that you actually think Andrews will win. Then again, maybe it shouldn't be surprising; we see projections of desires from you all the time.
I never denied I make predictions based on desires often, but there is really no polling out for this race other than those that suggest Lautenberg has low approvals.  If Andrews can make a dent in Bergen and/or Hudson, he has more than a 50/50 shot

There were a few polls showing Lautenberg around 40-45% and Andrews around 15-20% (and Cresitello around 5-10%). Anyway, local evidence suggests Andrews is going to get beaten to a pulp here; there are no Andrews signs but tons of Lautenberg signs (usually in tandem with various other local officials being challenged in the primaries). Actually, that last could hurt Lautenberg as he's heavily tied his horse to the Ferriero candidates in Bergen County, but I think it's somewhat unlikely.

It'll be interesting to see which column Andrews is on in the sample ballots. Column 3 would definitely be a big boost...
I received the sample ballot, he's listed by his lonesome in Column 1

Did it come today? I hadn't seen them yet.
Mine (or my specifically my parents) came in the mail yesterday
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2008, 08:45:05 AM »

Andrews is in the number one spot where I live.
County lines, your in Sussex right?
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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2008, 07:16:28 PM »

That Republican debate was just awful. I think it was the worst debate I've ever watched. The candidates are some of the worst I've ever seen as well.
Sabrin was the only who could string together a coherent sentence.  Pennachio talks like Elmer Fudd and can't decide whether to leave his glasses on or off, and Zimmer blinks more than John Edwards.  I'm thinking this might be the year the GOP has a shot in NJ Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2008, 07:29:15 PM »

and probably allowed Michael Wildes to waltz into Rothman's seat (ugh).
Huh

I've never heard of this guy, who is he?
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E: 9.16, S: -3.13

« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2008, 07:32:02 PM »

and probably allowed Michael Wildes to waltz into Rothman's seat (ugh).
Huh

I've never heard of this guy, who is he?

My mayor, and Ferriero's bosom buddy. He's had a congressional campaign fund open since 2006.
Yikes, maybe I should feel grateful to have Rothman Tongue
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« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2008, 05:42:31 PM »

Yikes, I was got the two nominees I did not want on the two sides.  However, I think this matchup probably gives the GOP the best chance of winning. 

Just to stress the importance of county lines, Jersey Joe broke 60% in Bergen after receiving it
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