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DownWithTheLeft
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« on: September 08, 2006, 02:11:30 PM »

It's actually politically motivated by US Attorney, Chris Cristy who was going to run for the republican nomination for senate himself. He's doing it to help Kean.

Conan, are you suggesting won't hurt Menendez?

Chris Christy, I though you never heard of him?  Obviously you don't remember his last big investigation, JIM MCGREEVEY?  Oh, that's right I guess it wasn't just overzealousness after all.
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2006, 02:26:43 PM »

It's actually politically motivated by US Attorney, Chris Cristy who was going to run for the republican nomination for senate himself. He's doing it to help Kean.

Conan, are you suggesting won't hurt Menendez?

Chris Christy, I though you never heard of him?  Obviously you don't remember his last big investigation, JIM MCGREEVEY?  Oh, that's right I guess it wasn't just overzealousness after all.
Yes and is McGreevey in jail or something today? No.... Also, I only read that he considered running for the senate today. He is a little known figure in NJ. I am not suggesting it wont hurt Menendez, it will. Now he will have to discredit him and hopefully his office will come up with the results of the investigation so he can be vindicated.
Oh and I have read some more, Menendez's rental was approved by the House Ethics Committee. Depending on how this pans out, it can either help Kean or destroy him.

To say this while destroy Kean, that is a bit hackish, it should go in that section. 

QUOTE ME HERE:
I officially state, September 8, 2006, I personally guarantee Tom Kean Jr. will be the next senator from NJ
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2006, 03:05:02 PM »

It's actually politically motivated by US Attorney, Chris Cristy who was going to run for the republican nomination for senate himself. He's doing it to help Kean.

In other words, just like the Delay prosecution in Texas.

Except Bob Menendez actually committed a crime, a legitmate crime, not the fishing the Texas DA is doing.
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2006, 04:18:13 PM »

It's actually politically motivated by US Attorney, Chris Cristy who was going to run for the republican nomination for senate himself. He's doing it to help Kean.

In other words, just like the Delay prosecution in Texas.
Actually no, while Delay broke the law, Menendez didnt do anything illegal but something that was approved by the House Ethics Committee.

You keep believing that, there is something to be said for being a realist, I hope all Democrats think that Menendez is the favorite and will cruise to victory like you and ignore this race.
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2006, 04:50:56 PM »

Well I'm ready to call this race a tossup now. lol makes you wonder if reporters are already waiting outside Richard Codey's house.

I think they might be, in fact, that's my worst nightmare Smiley

Too bad all Dems don't think what Conan does about this race Sad
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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2006, 07:17:33 AM »

It's actually politically motivated by US Attorney, Chris Cristy who was going to run for the republican nomination for senate himself. He's doing it to help Kean.

Uh, no. One thing that both Republicans and Democrats recognize him for is that Chris Christie has never been one to play politics. He has probobly been tougher on suspects of his own party then that of the opposition.
Exactly the contrary actually. Chris Christie, I have found in my research, is extremely partisan, and a big fundraisor for Bush. In fact, his nomination should have been put down because of that.

Care to share any of this research with us?
It's called googling his name.

Then I am sure you have a ton of links to share with us.
http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?city=Mendham&st=NJ&last=christie&first=christopher
http://www.whitehouseforsale.org/ContributorsAndPaybacks/pioneer_profile.cfm?pioneer_ID=822
Christie was touted as a gubernatorial candidate last year and also as a U.S. Senate candidate for this year. AP- Sep 8th Article in Bergen Record


First of all, if Chris Cristie is a Republican, shouldn't he be donating money to Republicans?  Hey wait Conan, I just got this breaking news that Kean and Menendez gave money to help others in their own parties!  That really doesn't make sense.

And of course, because some pundits floated his name means he is in the race.
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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2006, 09:23:49 AM »

It's actually politically motivated by US Attorney, Chris Cristy who was going to run for the republican nomination for senate himself. He's doing it to help Kean.

Uh, no. One thing that both Republicans and Democrats recognize him for is that Chris Christie has never been one to play politics. He has probobly been tougher on suspects of his own party then that of the opposition.
Exactly the contrary actually. Chris Christie, I have found in my research, is extremely partisan, and a big fundraisor for Bush. In fact, his nomination should have been put down because of that.

Care to share any of this research with us?
It's called googling his name.

Then I am sure you have a ton of links to share with us.
http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?city=Mendham&st=NJ&last=christie&first=christopher
http://www.whitehouseforsale.org/ContributorsAndPaybacks/pioneer_profile.cfm?pioneer_ID=822
Christie was touted as a gubernatorial candidate last year and also as a U.S. Senate candidate for this year. AP- Sep 8th Article in Bergen Record


And that means he is a political hatchetman?
Yes, it's unacceptable for a US Attorney. Especially if you were only given the job in the 1st place because of those reasons.

Well, there goes Spitzer.  And most attorney general's.

Giving money to candidates does not indicate their politics influence their jobs.

Also, none of your links prove he got his job because of his politics.

I figure he would say "assumes facts not yet in evidence."

Conan does this a lot.  I think I will no longer be responding to what he has to say until he acknowledge that Menendez is no longer the favorite and it is at least a tossup.  With every new story I feel more confident, and now give Kean a 75% to win.
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2006, 10:48:26 AM »

I've altered my prediction to flip WA and NJ around. Cantwell holds WA, Menendez loses NJ.

Seems like a lot of people are flocking to this prediction Smiley

Sorry, Conan and Smash, want to join the bandwagon of justice or keep living in Democratic fantasy land?
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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2006, 12:46:00 PM »

It's actually politically motivated by US Attorney, Chris Cristy who was going to run for the republican nomination for senate himself. He's doing it to help Kean.

Uh, no. One thing that both Republicans and Democrats recognize him for is that Chris Christie has never been one to play politics. He has probobly been tougher on suspects of his own party then that of the opposition.
Exactly the contrary actually. Chris Christie, I have found in my research, is extremely partisan, and a big fundraisor for Bush. In fact, his nomination should have been put down because of that.

Care to share any of this research with us?
It's called googling his name.

Then I am sure you have a ton of links to share with us.
http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?city=Mendham&st=NJ&last=christie&first=christopher
http://www.whitehouseforsale.org/ContributorsAndPaybacks/pioneer_profile.cfm?pioneer_ID=822
Christie was touted as a gubernatorial candidate last year and also as a U.S. Senate candidate for this year. AP- Sep 8th Article in Bergen Record


And that means he is a political hatchetman?
Yes, it's unacceptable for a US Attorney. Especially if you were only given the job in the 1st place because of those reasons.

Well, there goes Spitzer.  And most attorney general's.

Giving money to candidates does not indicate their politics influence their jobs.

Also, none of your links prove he got his job because of his politics.

I figure he would say "assumes facts not yet in evidence."
Spitzer is an elected official. Christie has donated to Kean before when he ran and lost for congress. That is a conflict of interest.

When you show me Christie only prosecuted Democrats, because a week ago you didn't know who he was, this might be an argument.

Attention to the Forum:
It is now obvious that certain Dems like Conan and Smash still live in bubbles and think Menendez is the favorite, I would like to thank all Dems who are willing to realize he is now the underdog and have a reasonable debate.
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2006, 04:33:15 PM »

It should also be noted that Christie, who was nominated by Bush, recieved unanimous confirmation by the Democratic controlled US Senate, Jon Corzine and Bob Torricelli both voted in his favor. Last January he was praised on the Senate floor by Frank Lautenberg and in Jon Corzine's inaugural address.

Chris Christie dosen't play these games.

He has prosecuted many Democrats, but Conan is really a credible poster anyway, so of course he's going to lie

LOL, he still thinks Bob Menendez didn't commit a crime Smiley
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