Senate Protest and Analysis Thread

[DownWithTheLeft]

Puerto Rico has voted down statehood barely each time, and I do mean barely. If they would have been given the option of statehood and independence they would have chosen statehood. The only reason they didn't want to become a state is because of paying certain taxes so they can have the benefits of being American citizens without most of the cost. And I am talking about IRL here.

Well then, I guess we'll have to see how my bill pans out.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Could the VP and PPT (is the new one elected yet?) possibly move the Commission bill I introduced to the top of the list. I think it's very important that is debated because our relationship with the United States is essential.

I plan to introduce it as an amendment to the current bill

[DownWithTheLeft]

I ask Sam Spade to deem Ebowed's Holiday Bill frivolous

[DownWithTheLeft]

I ask Sam Spade to deem Ebowed's Holiday Bill frivolous

Why? Because you don't like it?

It's no more frivolous than to give nonexistent state governments the power to impose flag burning penalties.

Yeah it should probably be regions, but that's not really an issue.  This bill screams that it is a joke, there is absolutley no chance it will even be taken seriously and is a waste of time.

[DownWithTheLeft]

So much Ebowed loving freedom, he has proposed a bill to ban snowmobiles in parks.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Fairness to the Children Act

1. F.L. 14-16 is hereby repealed

The fourteenth Senate passed only nine acts.

Shhh...too much logic over here!

It was 13-14, I must have done something strange to find 14-16.

However, I must express how displeased I am that Ebowed has crowded up about 1-2 months worth of legislation that will probably be withdraw once hitting the floor

[DownWithTheLeft]

I think we need to address the issue of jury selection and juries, but I am asking someone else to help draft a bill

[DownWithTheLeft]

Just a suggestion/comment to Senator SoS:

How do you plan to fund NPR?

[DownWithTheLeft]

How do you plan to fund NPR?

Presumably through the National Endowment for the Humanities, which already receives federal funding.

Would be the funding be sufficent?  If we are endowing money toward something why aren't we already using it up already?

[DownWithTheLeft]

In response to DWTL:

Expect every bill I make that has anything to do with money at all to completely disregard numbers, as a message to the uselessness money issues have become of the lack of action on revising/removing the budget. It is to remind us that under this system, trillions of dollars can be shifted without any effect on the game at all.

Don't take it as a criticism, however, I expect this may become a problem on the senate.  As we saw with the Legalization of LSD Bill (and others of course) determining where money comes from and where it goes creates a problem

[DownWithTheLeft]

I would like to thank all senators who voted against crippling the economy and small businesses with another minimum wage increase, however, I am holding out hope the president will veto this bill.

[DownWithTheLeft]

I would like to thank all senators who voted against crippling the economy and small businesses with another minimum wage increase

Can we please stop feeding this myth that minimum wages cripple the economy?

Tell that to people who are layed-off because the employer can't afford two employees at the rate they are receiving now and must fire someone.  The problem with the minimum wage is it effects all workers, even those high school and college students just looking for a few extra bucks.  The drive up in the minimum wage also increases the demand for illegal immigration which I would suspect is the hidden motive for this bill I presume.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Touche Speedy on bringing that up

I shouldn't have mentioned it, but hopefully the senate can have a fun conservation on that if things change

[DownWithTheLeft]

I kindly request that Sen. Ebowed withdrew some of his less important bills so that other senators bill have a chance to come up

[DownWithTheLeft]

I cannot say I am particuarly in favor of Sen. Ebowed's comprehensive drug reform.  It is too non-specific and does not say how we will regulate the sale of these drugs.  I hope it gets fixed up to the point where it is something to work with.  I am glad, however, that I have brought ending the War on Drugs to the forefront again

[DownWithTheLeft]

I cannot say I am particuarly in favor of Sen. Ebowed's comprehensive drug reform.  It is too non-specific and does not say how we will regulate the sale of these drugs.  I hope it gets fixed up to the point where it is something to work with.  I am glad, however, that I have brought ending the War on Drugs to the forefront again

It's not finished, I just got bored of writing it.  I know there will have to be many more sections like regulation, taxation, and restrictions and so on.  I just posted that so I could finish it later.

Aren't you concerned though that the senate may cut out a long list of the drugs you mentioned?

[DownWithTheLeft]

I cannot say I am particuarly in favor of Sen. Ebowed's comprehensive drug reform.  It is too non-specific and does not say how we will regulate the sale of these drugs.  I hope it gets fixed up to the point where it is something to work with.  I am glad, however, that I have brought ending the War on Drugs to the forefront again

It's not finished, I just got bored of writing it.  I know there will have to be many more sections like regulation, taxation, and restrictions and so on.  I just posted that so I could finish it later.

Aren't you concerned though that the senate may cut out a long list of the drugs you mentioned?

I'd be curious to see what exactly the Senators know about each of the drugs mentioned.

BTW that list doesn't legalize everything which is currently illegal ('scheduled') in the US/Atlasian law.  But it covers the stuff that people shouldn't be in trouble for.

Even if they cut out some of the drugs in the list, I hope we can agree to end the practice of incarcerating someone whose sole violation is drug use.

How bout a bill that did nothing but end incarcerations for people found with drugs? 

[DownWithTheLeft]

How bout a bill that did nothing but end incarcerations for people found with drugs? 

Because we can seriously cut dangerous crime, and fatalities from drug overdoses, if we legalize hard drugs and I hope to convince the Senate of that.

Well, the Decriminalization of LSD Bill is up very soon, that should be the first real test.  I ask that you support it in principle even if you think amendments should be made

[DownWithTheLeft]

It appears the Decriminalization of LSD Bill is next on tap and Sam has withdrawn the Immigration Bill.  Let the fireworks begin and I plan to be very active on debate as I am the sponsor of the bill (wow what a backlog!)

[DownWithTheLeft]

I missed the debate the first time around and I am still unclear as to what the End to District Amendments does (more specifically what "proportional representation" means in this case)  Could someone give a brief explanation of how senators would be elected?

[DownWithTheLeft]

With five days passing on the amendment to allow for gun control, I asked that the vote be closed with an official tally of 0 in favor, 1 opposed, and 1 abstention.  Otherwise, a court case will be forthcoming

[DownWithTheLeft]

I ask that the PPT disregards Mr. Gporter's bill that he introduced as his NOT A SENATOR. 

[DownWithTheLeft]

thank you, mr. moderate. I do not believe that I was doing anything wrong, only posting legislation.

YOU ARE NOT A SENATOR YOU CANNOT POST LEGISLATION!!!

[DownWithTheLeft]

Does anyone what charges can be brought against Gporter for taking the oath of office illegally and then trying to vote and introduce legislation?  I can't even find anything relevant other than the fact that he's not a senator.  I don't think there's ever been anyone dumb enough to that before

[DownWithTheLeft]

Does anyone what charges can be brought against Gporter for taking the oath of office illegally and then trying to vote and introduce legislation?  I can't even find anything relevant other than the fact that he's not a senator.  I don't think there's ever been anyone dumb enough to that before

None of it will reach the floor in the next 19 hours, so the point is basically moot.

True, but if he continues to be active in the next senate, that a problem most definetly arises.  And considering he is not a senator now, what would stop him then?