California sets precedent by breaking down Black employee data by lineage

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https://mobile.twitter.com/axios/status/1557606357087539200
https://mobile.twitter.com/axios/status/1557565960093143040

If I lived in CA, this wouldn't apply to me. I'm Black but my parents are (Afro-)Jamaican immigrants. This would apply to Black/African Americans who are descendants of slavery here in the United States. I don't have a problem with this, I just wonder how this will be proved.

Personally, on a separate note, I think that Jamaica should seek restitution/reparations from the UK (but I know that this will never happen).

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This has to be reported because I just can’t imagine the government asking for a dna or a 23andme test, that would be going way too far.

Yeah, unless self-reported. How could this be proved outside of genealogy?

Orwellian, virtue-signalling California politics at their finest. And better than working on reducing homelessness, it seems.

Well, Black/African American advocacy groups pushed for it. So yeah....

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Would this not apply to descendants of slaves from other slave colonies (Jamaica, Brazil, Haiti etc.)? If so I wonder what their line of thought is for that

Yeah, I already explained everything in the OP. It only applies to descendants of AMERICAN slavery.

In the cases of Jamaica and Haiti, those who've made it to America tend to be middle to upper middle class and are often somewhat different culturally from ADOS so the distinction makes sense. But the way they're phrasing it sounds weird.

Um, no. As the son of Jamaican immigrants myself, most Jamaican immigrants to the U.S. are NOT by any means "middle to upper middle class". Most are poor to working-class (of course, not all). The same applies to Haiti and immigrants from other majority-Black countries.

However, of course, many Black immigrants work up the economic ladder and end up in the middle class (and sometimes upper middle class).

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Technically, President Obama would be able to qualify for this. Ironically, he's a descendant of American slavery on his mother's side lol.

One of his mother's ancestors was a Black man named John Punch who was enslaved in Virginia in the 17th century. John Punch's descendants obviously married and procreated with White people and thus.............you know what happened lol.

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I guess it depends on who you know from school, college, work, and the local community. There are definitely a fair amount of African immigrants (usually from Nigeria, Ethiopia/Eritrea, and Somalia in my experience) and/or the children of immigrants in pre-professional tracks and certain STEM majors. Often their parents were professionals, teachers, or other relatively well-off/middle-class occupations in their home countries.

Definitely, that's why I said that it wasn't the case for all Black immigrants but for many/most (depending on the nationality/ethnicity).

My mother ran a successful mini-market (not in Jamaica but another island) but she had to leave that all behind. Growing up, I was on welfare/food stamps for a couple years until she got better paying jobs. My mom worked her way up doing different jobs and then got her Master's degree, now she's a public school teacher here in NYC and makes a decent salary.

Pretty typical hard-working immigrant story lol.

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This seems a way to say “These Blacks are the oppressed Blacks, the others aren’t”

Not really, just acknowledging our differences. Just like how not all White people are the same. A Serbian has very little in common with a White American, for example.

The only thing I will push back on is some of the rhetoric that SOME (not most or all) Black/African Americans will expose about Black immigrants. Some will say that Black immigrants are "leeches", "tethers", "aren't really Black", "ungrateful", etc. That's wrong and ignorant.

Of course, SOME (not most or all) Black people from Africa & the Caribbean will say stupid & ignorant stuff about Black/African Americans too. That's also unacceptable.

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My ancestors were indentured servants, about as close to slaves as whites ever got in this country. Yet it would be absurd for me to get special privileges or anything today by recording this, which is why data is generally reported as just “white” for all white people. Racism today is based on people’s knee-jerk perceptions of skin color, not DNA tests.

Well, slavery =/= indentured servitude. Also, deeply entrenched systemic racism against Black Americans didn't stop when slavery ended.

Anyways, I've said multiple times that this would be pretty hard to prove. This would have to be done through self-reporting (which can be dubious) or genealogy (which would be expensive and kind of problematic).