‘We’re thinking landslide’: Beyond D.C., GOP officials see Trump on glide path to reelection

[Yoda]

Nobody knows, but if he really got 300,000 people to sign up for his Tulsa rally it's gargantuan. This weekend, thousands of people lined the piers of San Diego to celebrate his 74th birthday. The support out there for him is massive. But we've created so many echo chambers on the left that we don't understand why he is so popular.

The minority that support him is very vocal, yes. In a country of 330 million, even a president with 38% approval can accurately be described as having 'massive' support. That's not being debated.

But we've created so many echo chambers on the left that we don't understand why he is so popular.

LOL wut

Trump is not popular by any tortured stretch of the imagination. He may be popular among the gop base - and we do fully understand why he is popular among that group, btw - but the gop base is not the country. They are far, far outside of the normal mainstream, both in values and numbers. They don't even acknowledge the same reality exists that democrats and independents do.

[Yoda]

A lot of that is posturing but there is truth to it. Trump has huge support among Republicans/his base.

Biden right now (and i believe throughout this entire campaign?) is carrying a higher % of Democrats (and democrats outnumber republicans) than trump is carrying Republicans, according to every poll that has asked the question.

So how does it matter one iota that trump has 'huge' support among 'republicans/his base'? This is beyond meaningless.

[Yoda]

Nobody knows, but if he really got 300,000 people to sign up for his Tulsa rally it's gargantuan. This weekend, thousands of people lined the piers of San Diego to celebrate his 74th birthday. The support out there for him is massive. But we've created so many echo chambers on the left that we don't understand why he is so popular.

Some liberals across the nation sign up for his rallies with no intention of going just to keep the seats empty.

And in any case rally size doesn't mean anything in terms of electoral results. Just ask Democratic nominee Bernie Sanders.

He has a cult base, sure, we know that. But there are no signs he's expanded it or that it will be enough for him.

Bernie's largest rally was around 25,000 IIRC. 300,000 is out of this world level.

There’s an enormous difference between entering your name on a website and actually attending a rally, Beet. I know at least some of those 300,000 are liberals screwing with the Trump campaign and many of the rest may have no intent of attending.

Good god it's a million now. Even if half a million liberals were just entering their names into his website to screw with him this is shaping up to be the biggest political rally in national history, if not world history. Trump's popularity is messianic. We need more Trump supporters here because most people here don't understand him or his people.

You do understand that the arena only holds 19,000, right?

You do understand that a 38% approval rating is not indicative of being popular, right?

[Yoda]

Nobody knows, but if he really got 300,000 people to sign up for his Tulsa rally it's gargantuan. This weekend, thousands of people lined the piers of San Diego to celebrate his 74th birthday. The support out there for him is massive. But we've created so many echo chambers on the left that we don't understand why he is so popular.

Some liberals across the nation sign up for his rallies with no intention of going just to keep the seats empty.

And in any case rally size doesn't mean anything in terms of electoral results. Just ask Democratic nominee Bernie Sanders.

He has a cult base, sure, we know that. But there are no signs he's expanded it or that it will be enough for him.

Bernie's largest rally was around 25,000 IIRC. 300,000 is out of this world level.

There’s an enormous difference between entering your name on a website and actually attending a rally, Beet. I know at least some of those 300,000 are liberals screwing with the Trump campaign and many of the rest may have no intent of attending.

Good god it's a million now. Even if half a million liberals were just entering their names into his website to screw with him this is shaping up to be the biggest political rally in national history, if not world history. Trump's popularity is messianic. We need more Trump supporters here because most people here don't understand him or his people.

This is beyond weak, Beet. You need to up your concern-trolling game. You're better than this.

Trump's support has become so rural, so white, and so segregated from the rest of American society, their entire conception of the political mainstream is ridiculously skewed. They have their own religion (non-denominational "Bible churches"), their own news network, their own sports, their own music, and their own movies. They cover vast swaths of rural America, so you can drive literally for days and not leave Trump Country. Naturally they think they're the mainstream, when really they are the sad reactionaries getting left behind.

If Biden wins, it will be a complete shock to these people. They have no idea how most of this country thinks.

Concern trolling? How is it concern trolling when Trump has already won the last election and is the POTUS? When he was first elected I remember a lot of people saying he wouldn't last until the midterms. Then Mueller was going to get him. It hasn't been him or his supporters who turned out wrong, it has been his critics. In 2016 I was one of the only posters here who said he would win.

Next it'll be, "Stop concern trolling Beet. The Reagan Revolution isn't going to damage the labor movement or the middle class. We here in West Germany find him detestable."

But what is the actual reality?

White people are the majority and in power (no matter who wins) and the electoral college favors rural areas over urban ones. The rural white Trump base is the mainstream, their conception of American society is American society because they are, and their religion is the American religion. Their news networks like OANN, sports, music, and movies are the hegemonic norm, and that's why you can drive for hundreds of miles and not leave it.

It's us, Atlas, The NY Times, NBC, who are out of the mainstream. It's we who are the reactionaries reacting to them. It's our job to understand them, and respect their reality. That's why we need more of them on here, and to give them a greater voice in our spaces. This is the absolute fact, and you can call me names, persecute me, or do whatever you want but no amount of lashing out can affect the truth.

This is quite the sad, delusional, pathetic read.

Not sure I've ever seen anyone in person or online who has fallen so deeply into a cult mentality before.

[Yoda]

Nobody knows, but if he really got 300,000 people to sign up for his Tulsa rally it's gargantuan. This weekend, thousands of people lined the piers of San Diego to celebrate his 74th birthday. The support out there for him is massive. But we've created so many echo chambers on the left that we don't understand why he is so popular.

Some liberals across the nation sign up for his rallies with no intention of going just to keep the seats empty.

And in any case rally size doesn't mean anything in terms of electoral results. Just ask Democratic nominee Bernie Sanders.

He has a cult base, sure, we know that. But there are no signs he's expanded it or that it will be enough for him.

Bernie's largest rally was around 25,000 IIRC. 300,000 is out of this world level.

There’s an enormous difference between entering your name on a website and actually attending a rally, Beet. I know at least some of those 300,000 are liberals screwing with the Trump campaign and many of the rest may have no intent of attending.

Good god it's a million now. Even if half a million liberals were just entering their names into his website to screw with him this is shaping up to be the biggest political rally in national history, if not world history. Trump's popularity is messianic. We need more Trump supporters here because most people here don't understand him or his people.

You do understand that the arena only holds 19,000, right?

You do understand that a 38% approval rating is not indicative of being popular, right?

Beet is trolling, but some of his talking points are worth a rebuttal, lest casual viewers think these ideas go unchallenged.

Gotta admit, had me fooled! I have two die-hard, racist, trump-loving brothers who sound almost this bad, and regurgitate a lot of the same tropes. "N-words are taking over the country, trump is the REAL America, he tells it like it is!" types. Pretty sad when the far right in this country is almost indistinguishable from satire at this point.

[Yoda]

Come to think of it, why is Trump holding a rally in Oklahoma of all places? His polls are a disaster, but I doubt they're so bad he needs to campaign in red states. Incredible waste of time and resources to not be spending all this time and money in a swing state. This would be like Biden campaigning in Maryland.

[Yoda]

Come to think of it, why is Trump holding a rally in Oklahoma of all places? His polls are a disaster, but I doubt they're so bad he needs to campaign in red states. Incredible waste of time and resources to not be spending all this time and money in a swing state. This would be like Biden campaigning in Maryland.

My assumption is only deep red states are even willing to allow this sort of rally given the pandemic.

Good point. DeWine (to his credit) would not allow a ridiculous vanity rally like this to go forward and endanger Ohioans. For that, I'm very thankful. I'm sure other competitive states with republican governors like Iowa, Arizona, Florida and Georgia will be a different story though.