SPC/Brandon H for Atlasia

[AndrewTX]

Ohhh, you may be getting a high preference from me!

[AndrewTX]

Hello Atlasia,

My running mate announcement will be made shortly. I hope that we can unite Atlasia and bring change to a nation that has seen 16 months of JCP rule. Thank you.

Well, 24 months. Keystone Phil and Mr. Moderate were JCP by default. 6 terms and 2 years of JCP rule.

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[AndrewTX]

Hello Atlasia,

My running mate announcement will be made shortly. I hope that we can unite Atlasia and bring change to a nation that has seen 16 months of JCP rule. Thank you.

Well, 24 months. Keystone Phil and Mr. Moderate were JCP by default. 6 terms and 2 years of JCP rule.

??

     As someone who can remember the Moderate Administration, I am also deeply perplexed by segwaystyle's statement.

JCP unity tickets receiving JCP support. I don't know if the JCP supported the Presidents before that because the wiki doesn't say, but the JCP's endorsed candidate hasn't lost since this time 2008. That's bad democracy.

Phil didnt need the JCP to win. Jas and Sensi both ran good races, but Phil won because Jas voters gave Phil the second preference, and Sensi voters gave him the second preferences. I honestly dont think too many people saw a victory for Phil coming along until the day voting started. As for Moderate, I like to think he won that race all on his own. In that June 08 election, the JCP didnt have the nationwide support that it does now. It wasnt until around the time Bgwah was running that other parties died and had members join the JCP

[AndrewTX]

Hello Atlasia,

My running mate announcement will be made shortly. I hope that we can unite Atlasia and bring change to a nation that has seen 16 months of JCP rule. Thank you.

Well, 24 months. Keystone Phil and Mr. Moderate were JCP by default. 6 terms and 2 years of JCP rule.

??

     As someone who can remember the Moderate Administration, I am also deeply perplexed by segwaystyle's statement.

JCP unity tickets receiving JCP support. I don't know if the JCP supported the Presidents before that because the wiki doesn't say, but the JCP's endorsed candidate hasn't lost since this time 2008. That's bad democracy.

Phil didnt need the JCP to win. Jas and Sensi both ran good races, but Phil won because Jas voters gave Phil the second preference, and Sensi voters gave him the second preferences. I honestly dont think too many people saw a victory for Phil coming along until the day voting started. As for Moderate, I like to think he won that race all on his own. In that June 08 election, the JCP didnt have the nationwide support that it does now. It wasnt until around the time Bgwah was running that other parties died and had members join the JCP

I'm not familiar with the actual elections or administrations. I just know that the JCP played a big role (VP candidate, endorsement, etc) so they were tied to the JCP in some way or another. I would call that a JCP candidate.

I see where you are coming from, but I wouldnt call that a JCP candidate. Moderate had the backing of the NLC, which at the time was one of the biggest parties in Atlasia. During Phils time, we had 5 of the 10 seats, and with Moderate we had 6 of the 10 Senate seats, which oddly enough I was one of the 6.

[AndrewTX]

Hello Atlasia,

My running mate announcement will be made shortly. I hope that we can unite Atlasia and bring change to a nation that has seen 16 months of JCP rule. Thank you.

Well, 24 months. Keystone Phil and Mr. Moderate were JCP by default. 6 terms and 2 years of JCP rule.

??

     As someone who can remember the Moderate Administration, I am also deeply perplexed by segwaystyle's statement.

JCP unity tickets receiving JCP support. I don't know if the JCP supported the Presidents before that because the wiki doesn't say, but the JCP's endorsed candidate hasn't lost since this time 2008. That's bad democracy.

Phil didnt need the JCP to win. Jas and Sensi both ran good races, but Phil won because Jas voters gave Phil the second preference, and Sensi voters gave him the second preferences. I honestly dont think too many people saw a victory for Phil coming along until the day voting started. As for Moderate, I like to think he won that race all on his own. In that June 08 election, the JCP didnt have the nationwide support that it does now. It wasnt until around the time Bgwah was running that other parties died and had members join the JCP

I'm not familiar with the actual elections or administrations. I just know that the JCP played a big role (VP candidate, endorsement, etc) so they were tied to the JCP in some way or another. I would call that a JCP candidate.

I see where you are coming from, but I wouldnt call that a JCP candidate. Moderate had the backing of the NLC, which at the time was one of the biggest parties in Atlasia. During Phils time, we had 5 of the 10 seats, and with Moderate we had 6 of the 10 Senate seats, which oddly enough I was one of the 6.

The only JCP member I can find that lost an election since June 2008 was GMantis, again, correct me if I'm wrong. I just find this to be an unwelcome monopoly that makes elections pointless.

Eh, to be honest its not really worth it to continue. You believe what you want, and I believe what I've been here for, so I guess there really isnt a compromise.

Phil didnt need the JCP to win. Jas and Sensi both ran good races, but Phil won because Jas voters gave Phil the second preference, and Sensi voters gave him the second preferences.

Not true. Phil wouldn't have touched the second round without the JCP.

I wouldnt go that far, I know that a lot of NLC members backed Phil for that second preference, because (people like me) thought it would knock Sensi out earlier, and bring Jas and Moderate in.