Allard: No third term

[Deano963]

Bob Schaffer and Scott McInnis are both favoured to get in the race alongside Bob Beauprez, apparently. 

What a deliciously bloody and expensive primary that would produce on the Republican side. Whoever emerged the winner would be bloody and broke, while Udall waltzes through on the Dem side, untouched and stockpiling cash. Excellent.

[Deano963]

Bob Schaffer and Scott McInnis are both favoured to get in the race alongside Bob Beauprez, apparently. 

What a deliciously bloody and expensive primary that would produce on the Republican side. Whoever emerged the winner would be bloody and broke, while Udall waltzes through on the Dem side, untouched and stockpiling cash. Excellent.

I heard that Denver's mayor was interested which could be an inconvenience for Udall.  Udall would still win the nomination but it would score a much needed point for the Republicans if Udall had some degree of competition in his primary.

Yeh, something tells me Udall beats a guy with the last name "Hickenlooper" fairly easily.

[Deano963]

I fear this race would only serve as a good opportunity to rid ourselves of either Musgrave or Tancredo.

Oh don't worry, I'm sure they would both be replaced by someone just as crazy if either vacated their seats.

[Deano963]

I fear this race would only serve as a good opportunity to rid ourselves of either Musgrave or Tancredo.

You better watch your words, or you might find DWTL with a pickax at your door...

Plus immediatley change your party affiliation

IF the immigration debate heats up more, and IF Tancredo can paint himself as sane, I see him making this race a tossup till the bitter end.  It's way to far out to definitivley count Tancredo out, who thought Sherrod Brown would be Ohio's next senator in January 2005?

Well, no one did, b/c in January 2005 Sherrod Brown had not even announced his candidacy.

[Deano963]

It's way to far out to definitivley count Tancredo out, who thought Sherrod Brown would be Ohio's next senator in January 2005?

Well, no one did, b/c in January 2005 Sherrod Brown had not even announced his candidacy.

And nor has Tancredo announced his candidacy for this seat.  That was what he was getting at.

No, I think what DWTL was trying to say was "who would have thought that Sherrod Brown could have defeated Mike Dewine in January 2005"?

And the answer to that question of course was myself and many other Democrats. Sherrod Brown was and is a very strong Ohio politician, with very, very strong ties to labor, minorities and a populist platform with broad cross-party appeal with previous statewide office experience. Tancredo is none of those things.

What makes this a very bad comparison is that Sherrod Brown was far more electable and closer to the political center statewide in Ohio than Tom Tancredo is in Colorado. So the usual stipulation of "well, you never know, a lot of things can happen in 2 years" dosen't really apply. A better comparison for Tom Tancredo would be to Katherine Harris in Florida.

[Deano963]

The Tancredo:Brown comparison is pretty ridiculous since Brown's pet issue, fighting unfair free trade deals and preserving jobs at home, is exactly the type of thing that plays very well in Ohio. The same is not true of Tancredo's, even if Coloradans don't like illegal immigration, it's unlikely the majority share his insane views (and if you think they do, give my congratulations to Rep. Randy Graf). Brown also isn't anywhere near as gaffe-prone (did he ever compare a major US city to a third world country?) and benefited greatly from the toxic political climate for Republicans, doubled in Ohio thanks to Bob Taft.

Oh yeah, you can bet with Tancredo as the nominee Hispanic turnout isn't going to be low, and we all know how they're going to be voting.

I could agree w/ some of you points, but fundamentally there is a great ideological similarity between the two. One is against movement of labor, another is against movement of capital, and in the end both amount to the same: "let the poor of this world starve and make the average American earn less and pay more for necessities, as long as I can go accross as a populilst sort of a chap".

Still, Tancredo does already have quite a reputation, which Brown didn't.

If by that you mean that Brown had a positive reputation in Ohio as a strong anti-free trade advocate/pro-fair trade advocate, and that Tancredo has a moslty negative reputation across the entire country as the man who wants to build an electrified fence along the U.S.-Mexico border and treat Mexicans live livestock, and throw the illegals already here over said fence with a catapult, then you are correct.