Why didnt I hear in 06 If you don't vote for Blackwell or Swann your racist? (user search)
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« on: September 21, 2008, 04:39:34 PM »

So it has already began As I suspected it would. Everywhere you look On Politico, on Yahoo's front page on real clearpolitics, People are whining are moaning that perhaps could lose because of racism. Everywhere on the blogs I frequent there is gnashing of teeth about how Obama should be doing much better in the polls  and the reason he isn't is because of race

Meanwhile as I walk Out the door and Get My Cleveland Plain dealer There is A big front page
story about How Mccain is up  48 to 42 in Ohio.. and they break the poll numbers down by race and get this Obama is up 98% to 0% among the black vote YES YOU HEARD ME RIGHT MCCAIN IS POLLING 0% OF THE BLACK VOTE



Let Obama stand on his merits. Isn't that what Dr. King meant when he said "I dream of a time when a man will be judged on his character and not on the color of his skin." Why can't liberal diehards follow Dr. King's wishes? Or, do they think we should run an "affirmative action" election, discriminating against whites?

I already know what people responses are gonna be African Americans already Overwhelmingly go for the democrat..Fine Ill concede that point what about in the   Democratic primaries where you had 2 candidates very close on all the major issues  and you go into Phildeldelphia county An Obama gets 92% of the black vote can you people honestly tell me people were voting for Obama's health care plan

There is no doubt that people in every nationality are kinda clannish  and they tend to vote for their own folks and there is nothing wrong with  it is natural  I don't have a problem with
98% of the African American vote going for Obama because he is one of them, but I don't have a problem with white people saying you know what were going with Mccain because he
he is one of Us

With all  that said, if the race vote  provides McCain's margin of victory, I'll take the win. Who says a little evil can't be used to do some good. :-)

I'm not troubled by my position at all  because the same thing worked against my 2006 candidate for Governor of OH and Swann in PA and i didn't hear not ONE  democrat complaining about racism then

Title's a bit misleading, since it is only tangentially related to your diatribe.

But it's an interesting analysis. 

Let me see if I have it right.  There are all these articles about how Obama may lose due to racial prejudism.  You are examining the possibility that he may win precisely because of racial prejudism.  This assumes a greater incidence of bigotry among blacks, and your chief line of evidence is the polling data.  It's a subtle point, I suppose.  Most would spin it as "folks simply like to vote for their own kind" but what is that if it isn't racial prejudice?  And, if so, the polling data suggests that, at least among the population sampled in Ohio, black voters are more bigoted than white voters, or at least that black voters have a higher propensity for ethnicity-based voting than white voters. 

I'm not sure it's quite that simple, though.  There are sound demographic/socioeconomic reasons that most black folks vote for Democrats when they vote, and the vote may naturally split about 9 to 1 in favor of the Democrat even without taking into account the fact that Obama is black.  So you could maybe say that the other ten percent--the ten percent that might not have supported the nonblack Democrat--are voting for Obama just because he's black.  And you could probably also reason that ten percent of McCain's white vote are coming just because he's white, if you factor out the white voters and then end up with a 54-43 split for McCain, and could then find the statistic that shows that the split for Republicans over Democrats over the past several elections in Ohio was something more like 49-48 or so.  Then five parts in fifty equals ten percent.  I'm making those last two stats up, of course, but it would show that the propensity for identity-based voting among blacks may not be significantly greater than that among whites.  Do this homework, if you're interested.  If you can show that I'm wrong, then I'll concede.  At least so long as I can't come with a better explanation.
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