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angus
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« on: June 10, 2014, 07:26:13 PM »


It ain't really a party till a goblet gets broken anyway.  Let's get this party started.

Let's be honest, how much did you really like Eric Cantor anyway?  Oh, I love his name.  Cantor.  That's about as beautiful as it gets.  But other than the sweet appelation, there wasn't much to love about the guy.  He was basically a Republican version of Al Gore.  I say Good Riddance.
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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2014, 07:36:42 PM »

Fun fact: Cantor was the GOP's only Jewish congressperson.

Fun fact:  Don't worry, I'm sure that the GOP will still be able to manage an unfair, treasury-draining foreign policy with respect to the Palestinian people even without him.

Really, his departure is not a bad thing.  Get over it.
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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2014, 07:50:19 PM »

Really, his departure is not a bad thing.  Get over it.

Yes it is. It shows Republican voters are so opposed to immigration reform they're willing to dick over their own majority leader just for putting it on the agenda.


You have been watching far too much MSNBC lately, Beet. 

What it shows is that congressional seats are not necessarily for sale to the highest bidder.
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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2014, 07:54:55 PM »

You can't fault the Tea Party, they are more politically active than most citizens. All US voters should be like them, regardless of ideology. Congress is supposed to work for us, if they don't vote the way their constituents want them to, we should oust them.

yes.

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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2014, 07:59:51 PM »

Well, I guess everyone loves a good ol'e upset. One of them powerful House leaders getting their comeuppance. Even if the result in this case is much more gridlock in the legislative branch.

Gridlock is about the best thing there is.  If there's no legislation, then you aren't getting screwed.  At least that's my small-brained hick philosophy.  

We really don't need them to save us from ourselves.  I'd be happy if they met once a month or so and spent the day actually addressing the problems of the Republic.  As it is, we pay them for spending all year meeting with lobbyists, grandstanding, and posing for the cameras.  I don't pretend to have a problem with the "tea party" (I use quotes because I really don't think the "tea party" exists.)

If your idea of good governance is what Cantor stands for, then I guess we have to agree to disagree.
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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2014, 08:17:34 PM »

This guy is a full-bore Dominionist.

But that's okay so long as he's not part of the eeeevillll Establishment, right, angus?

angus never uses the word evil.  Well, maybe not never, but I'm not really Zorostrian by nature, as it happens. I'm guessing that if you search this forum for the phrase "evil establishment" by user angus your only success will find it in this post, and only in answer to your post in which you attempt to put words into my mouth.  I will thank you not to do that in the future.
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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2014, 08:42:24 PM »

angus, you subscribe to what I call idiot-populism: the view that anybody is acceptable in office as long as they aren't entrenched. America has been idiot-populist as long as I have been alive, and I have grown to hate it.

You have grown to hate many things.  This is well known.  Normally I would try to engage your attentions against hate, but I think you enjoy your hate too much to change, so enjoy your hate.

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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2014, 09:09:56 PM »

Take a look at his website. This is probably the only time that a description of a Congressional candidate has reminded me of you.

Next time you see him tell him that he has a Latin grammatical error on his website.  He lists a "curriculum vita."  This is actually a fairly common error since many folks who know just enough Latin to be dangerous assume that since feminine nouns ending in "a" are pluarized "ae" and since there's only one it must be vita.  While that pluralization rule is true, the phrase "curriculum vitae" (literally, "course of life") consists of the genitive case noun vitae.  In the English language, the genitive case disappeared long ago, so many anglophones are not familiar with it.  Old school ivory tower types, however, understand its use and are particularly offended when smartasses try to be clever and show how much Latin they know and write it as "curriculum vita" and therefore end up making a bigger mistake than those who don't understand Latin at all.  Tell him that it should read "curriculum vitae" and not "curriculum vita" and that it has nothing to do with pluralization.

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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2014, 01:42:01 PM »

For anyone saying it's a turnout problem...



I was curious about that as well.  Thanks for posting. 

Someone may have posted this, but here's an interesting graphic from WaPo showing where Cantor and Brat had their showings.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/va-7th-district/?hpid=z1
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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2014, 04:12:58 PM »

You have day to day discussions with people. At school, work, in your home, friends, family. The consensus, even among Obama voters (many of whom have buyers remorse for the second term) they all can agree that they want Obamacare gone, or they hate the IRS, or Government spending is out of control, ect ect. However, there is a sense that no matter who wins the White House or Congress...nothing changes.

Yes, I heard a lot about this supposed buyers' remorse from Obama voters that was supposed to manifest in 2012. How did that turn out again?

I think it probably did.  I voted for Obama in 2008 but not in 2012.  A few others did here as well.  Nationally, there were about four times as many people who voted for Obama in 2008 but not in 2012 as there were who voted for a Obama in 2012 but not in 2008.  I wouldn't necessarily call it buyer's remorse, but there were obviously a good many people who supported his candidacy but saw a marked difference between the promise of a Candidate Obama and the reality of President Obama.  The 18-29 age group voted 66% for Obama in 2008, but 59% for Obama in 2012.  With the 30+ group the difference was smaller (50% in 2008 and 47% in 2012).  Overall, he got enough support to win, but certainly the phenomenon to which you alluded was realized to some extent.  To his good fortune, the GOP nominated Mitt Romney.  The "buyer's remorse" did not overwhelm that fact.  
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