CNN/SSRS National Poll: Sanders +3

[We Live in Black and White]

Well this thread is, predictably, a steaming pile of s**t.

In any case, I'm glad someone has finally overtaken Biden. I'm no huge fan of Sanders, but we will absolutely, 100% lose if we nominate Biden. Need I remind everyone of Hillary's """huge leads"""?

[We Live in Black and White]

Also:

non-white:
Sanders 30%
Biden 27%
Warren 16%
Yang 6%

No minority appeal my cowboy ass. If anything, Sanders appeals almost equally to nonwhite voters as he does to his white progressive base.

[We Live in Black and White]

If Sanders get the nomination, then good luck to him beating Trump. He certainly won't be getting the votes of many African-American voters who have no attachment to him.

There is making a case in good faith that Sanders is not the most electable candidate.

And then there is descending into absurdities.

Like I said, the last three Democratic Presidents were from states with higher than average African-American populations. The biggest losers were from states below the nationwide average.

So, I guess Donald Trump is elected on a wave of afroamerican support from the state of New York

It's silly to make that comparison, because Republicans and Democrats have different winning coalitions. No Democrat can win the presidency without turning out black voters.

Okay, I never thought I'd ever go to bat for Bernie the Egomaniac again, but seriously seriously seriously read the crosstabs. If this poll is to be believed, Sanders is beating Biden with nonwhite voters. Which is no huge surprise when you factor in the absurd s**t Biden has said about POC over the years.

[We Live in Black and White]

Okay, I never thought I'd ever go to bat for Bernie the Egomaniac again, but seriously seriously seriously read the crosstabs. If this poll is to be believed, Sanders is beating Biden with nonwhite voters. Which is no huge surprise when you factor in the absurd s**t Biden has said about POC over the years.

I'm referring to black voters, not non-white voters as a whole. You should be intelligent enough to know that not all non-white voters vote the same in primaries. The black vote is quite clustered in the south and in a delegate game that makes a difference.

My point is about the general elections and the fact that Sanders' strategy is to try and win by winning back white working class voters. His team was talking about targeting the Dakotas and Oklahoma, which is absurd. He's not trying to win by running up black turnout in swing states, he's trying to win by winning over white voters in red states, which is utterly stupid.

I'll concede that targeting those states is a terrible idea, but we're also very much not going to win if we don't tip over Obama-Trump whites in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. I'd add to that by saying that you should wait until Sanders has to run a general election campaign against Trump before you write off his targeting of black voters.