What does a second Trump term look like? (user search)
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
June 16, 2024, 08:19:46 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion
  2024 U.S. Presidential Election (Moderators: Likely Voter, GeorgiaModerate, KoopaDaQuick 🇵🇸)
  What does a second Trump term look like? (search mode)
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: What does a second Trump term look like?  (Read 1048 times)
Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 90,490
Jamaica
Political Matrix
E: -6.84, S: -0.17

P P P

« on: May 13, 2024, 09:47:12 AM »

Tax cuts for the rich, trickled down economics very similar to Bush W without the war and more racist judges

If we lose Harris career is over anyways where are Solid, Brucejoel and Obama defenders of Harris last time. She needed to be replaced even moreso if Haley is picked not Burgum
Logged
Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 90,490
Jamaica
Political Matrix
E: -6.84, S: -0.17

P P P

« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2024, 09:52:53 AM »

There is a silver lining in all of this at least Harris won't be the fav to win in 28 Newsom will be but Newsom favs are up over 50 he can beat her in the primary now if they debate, this just makes me hard core anti Harris looking at polls not Biden

At least Ds may not repeat the mistake of nominating a woman for Prez ever again
Logged
Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 90,490
Jamaica
Political Matrix
E: -6.84, S: -0.17

P P P

« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2024, 09:57:20 AM »

- Zero crime
- $.50 a gallon gas
- National debt eliminated
- Flying cars that run on freedom
- Supreme Court Justice Tucker Carlson

Trump ran up the debt more than any other Prez due to his tax CUTS
Logged
Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 90,490
Jamaica
Political Matrix
E: -6.84, S: -0.17

P P P

« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2024, 10:01:02 AM »

Obviously disastrous, and I would expect polling in the summer and fall of 2025 that at least 50-55% would prefer Biden had won the election. So basically, like in 2017.

In terms of policy, Trump would be much more erratic and staff up his entire admin with a bunch of hardcore MAGA simps and yes-men. He'll move forward with more aggressive policies on issues like the border, and with several Trump judicial appointees from his 1st term, the courts may not serve as a good check on him.

Legislation obviously depends on the congressional majorities, but he could pass major stuff with small majorities this time around as the GOP House conference and senate caucus will be much more ideologically united compared to 2017/18, when there were the McCains of the world. Trump and the MAGA wing basically "cleaned house" over the last few cycles with just very few skeptics remaining in office.

Additionally, Trump will issue massive personnel overhaul in the executive and judicial branch and use the Justice Dept for retribution against his opponents. His AG almost certainly make Barr or Sessions look like part of Resistance.

On foreign policy, he'll end Ukraine aid which would likely cause Russia to win the war over the median run. Potentially this encourages Putin to go all in on the Baltics while Europe isn't ready to go to war against Russia.

Dems will probably do well in the 2026 midterms and may enter 2028 as the favorite. That said, the damage by that time might be close to irreversible. At least it would require a Dem POTUS with solid majorities for at least 2 full terms (which probably won't happen unless there's an entire realignment of politics and voter coalitions).

This all seems plausible and it's terrifying

Lol we go thru 2 Terms of Bush W with that Edwards pick instead of Kerry picking Gephardt and David Axelerod told Kerry to pick Edwards instead of Gephardt and Edwards turned out to be a sex abuser

As soon as Kerry lost I said Gephardt would of won CO, NV, OH, VA and NM and IA
Logged
Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 90,490
Jamaica
Political Matrix
E: -6.84, S: -0.17

P P P

« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2024, 10:29:58 AM »

I'll start with a sliver of silver lining: I don't think he gets much done legislatively.  My current expectation is that the Democrats win back control of the House regardless of the outcome of the Presidential election so he at least has a check on that front.

But on the flipside, I think its borderline a foregone conclusion that the GOP will take the Senate.  In which case he gets to appoint more conservative judges that continue to issue rulings out of step with the majority of the country.  Alito and Thomas both retire and the current conservative majority on the Supreme Court is cemented even further.

Faced with a Democratic House, he governs mostly by executive order.  The federal bureaucracy becomes exponentially politicized following massive layoffs.

The 2026 midterms are a Blue Wave with Democrats growing their House majority and winning back the Senate.

MTG and her ilk propose repealing the 22nd Amendment which ultimately goes nowhere.  Trump pays lip service to running again but is privately vindicated that he was able to stage a comeback in 2024 and surprisingly makes no concerted effort to run again in '28

The 2028 Presidential Election is a 2008 redux with a progressive Democrat being elected.  Trump says he would've won in a landslide had he ran again.

So in sum, I'm naively optimistic the country survives but is undoubtedly worse off.




How does 2026 go for Dems? Is it like a 2018 or a 2010 in terms of seats gained?
Depends on how much Rs start with, but could see a D +15 generic ballot.

No, they won't start out at D 15 percent it will be D 3 on GCB we still have gerrymandering in the Deep S the S map is identical to 24 map. Also, 28 S map is identical to 303 map except in 26 Daines is vulnerable to Busse when Busse loses to GIANFORTE and Vance is vulnerable to Landmam


Also, Trump won't be vulnerable until he does as he said he would do free the insurrection he probably will have close to 50 percent Approvals the day he enters office but the outcry when he frees the insurrection will cost Rs seats
Logged
Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 90,490
Jamaica
Political Matrix
E: -6.84, S: -0.17

P P P

« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2024, 11:50:31 AM »

-revenge

-border crisis solved

-if riots, send army to kill criminals (not like in 2020 when Trump acted like a pussycat)

-support Israel, kill terrorists (Iran,Isis,...). Maybe a big agreement US-Israel-Arabs

-taxe cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts.





You aren't gonna get very few of the tax cuts, rich people get 40 K
Logged
Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 90,490
Jamaica
Political Matrix
E: -6.84, S: -0.17

P P P

« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2024, 12:20:01 PM »

Obviously disastrous, and I would expect polling in the summer and fall of 2025 that at least 50-55% would prefer Biden had won the election. So basically, like in 2017.

In terms of policy, Trump would be much more erratic and staff up his entire admin with a bunch of hardcore MAGA simps and yes-men. He'll move forward with more aggressive policies on issues like the border, and with several Trump judicial appointees from his 1st term, the courts may not serve as a good check on him.

Legislation obviously depends on the congressional majorities, but he could pass major stuff with small majorities this time around as the GOP House conference and senate caucus will be much more ideologically united compared to 2017/18, when there were the McCains of the world. Trump and the MAGA wing basically "cleaned house" over the last few cycles with just very few skeptics remaining in office.

Additionally, Trump will issue massive personnel overhaul in the executive and judicial branch and use the Justice Dept for retribution against his opponents. His AG almost certainly make Barr or Sessions look like part of Resistance.

On foreign policy, he'll end Ukraine aid which would likely cause Russia to win the war over the median run. Potentially this encourages Putin to go all in on the Baltics while Europe isn't ready to go to war against Russia.

Dems will probably do well in the 2026 midterms and may enter 2028 as the favorite. That said, the damage by that time might be close to irreversible. At least it would require a Dem POTUS with solid majorities for at least 2 full terms (which probably won't happen unless there's an entire realignment of politics and voter coalitions).

Pretty much this, and he will also again try to finally repeal Obamacare, which may actually pass this time around.

Additionally, he would definitely get away with all the pending trials and indictments.

It may not pass because he’ll have narrow majorities in the house and senate at best.

Small majorities might be enough since the moderate wing is pretty much gone from capitol. And in a scenario with Trump winning, I doubt the GOP has anything less than 52 seats in the senate (which they would need with Collins and Murk voting against).

They’ll still be some institutions lists like Mitch McConnell, Bill Cassidy, Shelley Moore Capito, Todd Young in the senate who could block some of Trump’s more radical ideas.

And in the house you have the likes of Fitzpatrick, Kean, Bacon, Valadao.

That's not many and none of them will be in leadership, so not much of a firewall, assuming they even serve as a firewall

Yup, also I was more specifically referring to the repeal of the ACA.

Aspects of Project 2025 will for sure be implemented, but in its pure form though. I guess that will inevitably happen at some point as the document was written by right-wing ideologues and Think Tanks. Whenever the GOP holds the next trifecta. If not in 2025, probably in 2029. Latter is also scary, because the POTUS then might be more competent and less erratic than Trump.

Rs won't def Newsom in 28 maybe def Harris
Logged
Pages: [1]  
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.043 seconds with 11 queries.