Motion to vacate Speaker Mike Johnson thread

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Johnson is a Democratic puppet. Why wouldn't they save him?

lmao imagine actually believing this

He isn't a D puppet he blocked the Border Bill on antagonist Trump marching order but glad to see aid passed

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

For example, that the Founders wanted an independent seat of power to ensure the independence of the Federal Government from any one state is also relevant context, and yet it wasn't mentioned.

The "Founders" envisioned that DC would just be a few buildings for housing Congress and the president, and that's it. If they had known that DC would grow into being the anchor of one of the largest and most important metropolitan areas in the country, and larger in population than several states, they would certainly support the DC statehood bill that passed the House last session (which maintains a neutral federal district consisting of just a few buildings and gives statehood to the residential parts). I mean, we literally revolted from England over a lack of representation.

I avoid using "The Founders intended..." by principle because they had a diverse set of views and there's not much they would all agree on, but this is one of those rare times it works. None of the Founders would support DC (as it currently exists) being locked out of Congressional representation entirely.

Jefferson was not Secular he was a Dixiecrat, the Whigs were secular but they weren't Ds, they were compassionate conserv, Lincoln would have supported DC Statehood but not George Washington whom was more conserv than Lincoln

Jefferson and Washington were aristocrat not Secular until Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and FDR of course

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

I don't see the motion to vacate pass on middle of Eday

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

If I were a Democratic representative, I would vote to save his Speakership, not least because he didn't make the mistake Kevin McCarthy did; and it would encourage more Republicans of a more pragmatic bent than the MTGs of this world to cooperate with Democrats going forward, knowing we've got their backs against members of the Putin Simp Caucus.  I am more interested in governing than I am in making a statement, or one-upping someone.  

I don't know, maybe if Johnson and other prominent Republican leaders would all publicly endorse and fund primary challengers against MTG and the like and agree not to endorse/fund them if they still win the nomination anyway, maybe in that scenario I would agree to save him. Otherwise, he's just reaping what he's sown and will continue to sow.

Mike Johnson isn't going anywhere between now and Eday, just like BB Neteyahui isn't going anywhere. Rs already said they aren't gonna vacate the chair right before Eday to show more dysfunction

These are threafs created by 2016 due to being sour on aid to Ukraine, we can't stop finding Ukraine war

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Good

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Correction GOP base will come out but not in the 319 states, they will come out especially in FL it's gone for Ds. It's gonna be a repeat of 2020.

We are a polarized nation

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Either way, if MTG&co don't even feel confident enough to bring the motion to the floor (even if just to force Johnson to rely on Dem votes, which would be a symbolic defeat) that's a huge show of weakness and seems like it would embolden Johnson to defy the Clowns Caucus more and more in future budget negotiations.

Lol Eday is on Nov they don't have much time to vacate the chair anyways

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

This just makes the fact that Democrats axed McCarthy look silly.

Why? It's a night and day difference in how he acted and Johnson did.

Yeah, though it's interesting Johnson was seen as more right-wing and pro-MAGA. McCarthy was just a shameless opportunist who didn't have a backbone (see his flip flopping January 6).

McCarthy blocked the Jt J6 Commission when Rs were in the minority that's why McCarthy was ousted by 213 Ds Jay Paul remembered that.

That's why Rs lost the 2021 Recall because of McCarthy, why Larry Elder lost, Elder was coming up in the polls but McCarthy block was all outside of Bakersfield was talking about, I was in LA when it happened

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Correction Johnson won't be Spk come 25

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

It's a wasted motion we are about to vote