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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« on: June 17, 2018, 09:37:26 AM »

Florida, isn't the resort like it use to be. Granted, for retired persons, it is a home. More liberals are leaving the Midwest and moving to California, rather than FL.
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2018, 01:37:36 PM »

That's why Adam Putnam and Scott are leading
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2018, 10:11:43 AM »

2016, Clinton was supposed to win it, but it didn't happen. It's a purple state that Leans R
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2018, 10:17:35 PM »

It's a purple state that Leans R, more often than not.

Crucial states are CO, Va, NH & WI
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2018, 03:04:50 PM »

Democrats don't need FL to win the election.
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2018, 04:27:39 PM »

Democrats don't need FL to win the election.

This may be true, but if they don't carry FL, they don't have much breathing room elsewhere to compensate for it.

They haven't been able to since 1992. Democrats lose if the election is within 3%. Florida votes more Republican between 2 and 4%.

Nadar cost Al Gore NH and/FL in 2000 and Johnson cost Hillary WI, PA and MI. But, scandals broke and they both would of won, otherwise.
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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2018, 02:52:33 PM »

GOP is faltering in the statewide races for Governor and for Senate.  FL is turning into a blue state.
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2018, 02:03:57 PM »

Florida is a swing state, but it's not the tipping point race, its a battleground state.  And in 2016 showed this, when Hillary was supposed to win it.
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2018, 01:37:40 PM »

Yes, Arizona looks like it's about to pull a reverse Wisconsin in this midterm.  As for Florida, if anything it's moving right between the flood of retirees and Trump holding more of the Hispanic vote than anyone expected he could.  I actually think Florida could be a GOP base state again in 10-15 years if this keeps up.  Since it became competitive in the mid 1990's, a substantial portion of the Dem base in Florida has been retirees born in the 1910's-early 30's who remember FDR.  Their time in Florida is drawing to a close.

I don't understand - Democrats don't rely on those voters much because they are all almost gone. Someone born in 1930 is going to be almost 90 years old now. That is an incredibly small part of the electorate, and when you look at how Republican-leaning the 65+ age group is in FL, it's pretty clear Democrats don't rely on them. The Democratic base in Florida is similar to other states - Millennials + minorities, with a decently large age gap.

Highly doubtful Florida becomes another reliable Republican state. Republicans have retirees, but they won't be around forever, and there is enough growth among FL Millennials and minorities to counteract the pro-R trends for the time being. And then 20-30 years from now, Republicans will have to deal with a situation where many older Millennials are getting close to retiring. All bets are off once Millennials move into the 45-64 age group en masse.

It's a tilt GOP state, but glacially, it will vote for Bill Nelson.  The Dems don't really need FL in order to win the EC college.
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2018, 09:54:19 PM »

Yes, Arizona looks like it's about to pull a reverse Wisconsin in this midterm.  As for Florida, if anything it's moving right between the flood of retirees and Trump holding more of the Hispanic vote than anyone expected he could.  I actually think Florida could be a GOP base state again in 10-15 years if this keeps up.  Since it became competitive in the mid 1990's, a substantial portion of the Dem base in Florida has been retirees born in the 1910's-early 30's who remember FDR.  Their time in Florida is drawing to a close.

I don't understand - Democrats don't rely on those voters much because they are all almost gone. Someone born in 1930 is going to be almost 90 years old now. That is an incredibly small part of the electorate, and when you look at how Republican-leaning the 65+ age group is in FL, it's pretty clear Democrats don't rely on them. The Democratic base in Florida is similar to other states - Millennials + minorities, with a decently large age gap.

Highly doubtful Florida becomes another reliable Republican state. Republicans have retirees, but they won't be around forever, and there is enough growth among FL Millennials and minorities to counteract the pro-R trends for the time being. And then 20-30 years from now, Republicans will have to deal with a situation where many older Millennials are getting close to retiring. All bets are off once Millennials move into the 45-64 age group en masse.

It's a tilt GOP state, but glacially, it will vote for Bill Nelson.  The Dems don't really need FL in order to win the EC college.

Florida is a good fail-safe though. It's worth even more than Wisconsin and Michigan combined.

I forgot about the Cuban-Russian ties, and how it ties into Graham winning and Trump coziness with Kremlin will hand FL to Graham on a silver platter with Ron DeSantis as the nominee😁
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2018, 10:38:06 PM »

Nelson and Dems for Gov have won almost every poll out there thats not survey monkey polls, out there.

The face of Putin in the Oval office doesnt sit well for Floridians and the Cuban community
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2018, 08:57:29 AM »

To win presidency, the Dems need MI,PA, WI, CO & Va. To win control of Congress, alot of FL GOP seats are leaning towards the Dems and it is the key state to win the House and Senate in 2018.
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